Puke and Fold?

Am I ever good here? How weak is a fold vs unknown p arty-fish? Villain just sat down at table...

$400 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, October 05, 00:01:10 ET 2006
Table Monster #1277840 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: holdem81 ( $371.90 )
Seat 4: Buckets100 ( $497.20 )
Seat 6: JeffrayD ( $183.60 )
Seat 2: HERO ( $1002.80 )
Seat 1: INFINI_TYLT ( $357.80 )
Seat 5: VILLAIN ( $400 )
HERO posts small blind [$2].
holdem81 posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9c 8s ]
Buckets100 folds.
VILLAIN calls [$4].
JeffrayD folds.
HERO calls [$2].
holdem81 raises [$4].
VILLAIN calls [$4].
HERO calls [$4].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, Kd, 7d ]
pot : 24$

HERO checks.
holdem81 bets [$4].
VILLAIN calls [$4].
HERO calls [$4].

** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
pot : 35$

HERO checks.
holdem81 checks.
VILLAIN bets [$55].
HERO raises [$169].
holdem81 folds.
VILLAIN calls [$114].


** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]
pot : 373$

HERO... vomits... thinks... vomits again, then????

c/c's

blockbets, fold to a raise

pushes

he doesn't have a set on the flop most likely. considering he completes SB then smooth calls the PF minraise, why would he wait to start betting his draw on the turn, much less as an overbet? if he has two pair on the turn, how does he not 3bet you, especially after leading w/ that overbet? his line sucks no matter what he has. i'm pretty sure you're ahead. i might check/push, just because he may fold to an open push but try to bluff you again on river. get him to commit himself.

Originally Posted by gabe

pushes

Doesn't that effectively mean only worse hands will call? What if we check with the intention of calling any bet, therefore giving him an opportunity to bluff.

You think we miss value here often enough when we are ahead? Does villain have a lone King here enough that we can justify pushing?

Nice game selection.

Leaning towards agreeing with Gabe. We don't know what this guy's bluff frequency is.

Good to see this looks unfoldable.

I felt that his line matched with 2-pair. This would explain his "waking up" on the turn.

Since the turn made him "wake up", it seemed likely he had 6-x and filled up on the river. That or a "slow-donk-played" set.

The flush completing just made it shittier for me since fish are scared of flushes a whole lot and reduced the chances of him calling a push with a worse hand.

I decided to check-call and expected to be beat. Ugh.

btw block-betting isn't an option imo here. I'd be betting 1/4 pot and then folding to a push getting about 5.5-1 having commited a shitload.

Just a shitty situation. Glad to know a lot of ppl with more experience than me aren't shying away from this river.

gabe, why do you push?

Originally Posted by SmackinYaUp

gabe, why do you push?

Fish will call with lots of hands they otherwise would check behind or bet weak. This looks like one of these river problems where you're only 40% to win, but betting is your best play.

[quote="Fnord"]Nice game selection. quote]

Party sharks?