Quote Originally Posted by bbqsquirrel
Quote Originally Posted by Pelion
Yea check/raising a calling station when you have nothing? What are you trying to acomplish? Just value bet your good hands.

Good players arent good players because they can make fancy good plays. They are good players because they can gauge the tendencies of their opponents and adjust to them. Good players dont bluff calling stations.

edit: Thats assuming you are playing to win. In these games Im just playing to have fun so I tend to get drunk and bluff.
The 1st hand I had a flush draw (+overcard), but I couldn't get them to fold
No you couldnt. And you already knew you couldnt before you bluffed. Make your hand and THEN bet it. It really is that simple in these games.


Ok so the cliff notes of those hands are that sometimes you made top pair+, you made big bets and they called down with pretty much nothing. Othertimes you had nothing or a draw, you made big bets and they called down with pretty much nothing. Stop Bluffiing, Semibluffing, Preflop raising with 57s and anything else that isnt straight forward make-hands-get-paid poker. Its really obvious that you dont need fancy plays to beat these games. Its slightly less obvious that fancy plays will almost certainly damage your winrate.

Decide why you are playing. Do you want to mess about and have fun or do you want to beat the games. If you want to mess about then raise 57s preflop, push allin with a 55 underpair when they will call with any pair and absolutely definately make big raises when all you hold is a (hopefully) 12 out draw out of position.

If you want to win then play really straightforward. Make some top pair hands and value bet them. Check/call reasonable amounts with draws and then value bet if/when you make them and noone believes you.


Quote Originally Posted by bbqsquirrel

3) I limped along with KT diamonds on the button. The 4-way flop was gorgeous for me KT8 with 2 diamonds.
Wtf Hax?!