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    Default QQ, isn't our hand face up?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB ($119.15)
    Hero (UTG) ($258)
    MP ($247.15)
    CO ($97)
    Button ($277.70)
    SB ($198)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
    Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, Button calls $6, 1 fold, BB calls $4

    Flop: ($19) 4, 2, 6 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $12, Button calls $12, BB calls $12

    Turn: ($55) 8 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $36, Button raises to $108, 1 fold, Hero folds

    Total pot: $127 | Rake: $3


    I bet this way with unpaired hands to make them fold all the time, which makes me wonder WTF I'm supposed to be doing here with queens vs. somewhat competent players?
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    I don't think doubling air on this board is going to be that profitable vs most people. This is also a type of board I will not cbet (with air) all the time vs every opponent. Some reads on villain might be nice but as unknown a fold as played seems fine.
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    i think we always have to fold given villains line, i guess i'm just wondering if i always check turn here or if b/f is better
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    Quote Originally Posted by meeloche
    I don't think doubling air on this board is going to be that profitable vs most people. This is also a type of board I will not cbet (with air) all the time vs every opponent. Some reads on villain might be nice but as unknown a fold as played seems fine.
    basically always bet this flop with air agaist not crazy loose opponents.

    As for turn, this is a definite bet. And i'd also fold to the buttons turn raise. Everything was played fine.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    if you dont bet/fold this turn, it is questionable whether you should drink cocktails on thursday afternoons. literally.
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    I have to bet here, but I feel like good players will know I have to fold almost all my range in this spot if they raise, is there no counter

    vs. a good aggro opponent, is this a felt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mixchange
    I have to bet here, but I feel like good players will know I have to fold almost all my range in this spot if they raise, is there no counter

    vs. a good aggro opponent, is this a felt?
    How often do you think villain is bluffing here?

    When someone who's not completely insane raises in this spot, he is never bluffing.
    You just double barreled on a wet board into 2 opponents (one of which is a shortstack) and villain still raised you.
    This is one of the best examples of a bet/fold that I've ever seen.
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    last night I got obsessed with floating and making OR fold so I got all paranoid ppl were making moves on me that I might make on them

    now this just seems std after paranoia worn off
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    i like stacking off on this turn
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    cuz if they slowplayed a set on that flop i ship the moniez
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    cuz if they slowplayed a set on that flop i ship the moniez
    57 imo...

    I don't think he's bluffing here. There is still another player in the pot (shorty), and you've shown a lot of strength.

    like others have said, b/f is good here.

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