QQ lots of action preflop

Every single one of these players are playing around 21/17 and seem to be regs/competent. The UTG guy is a huge fish spewing off his money which is why I stayed at the table. The SB 3bets 7.0% of the time with ALL of them being in the SB over 114 hands so small sample though. BB 3bets 0% of the time. I wasn't really sure if I should be scared or trying to trap with a monster or what.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (MP) ($54.55)
Button ($72.55)
SB ($57.40)
BB ($105.65)
UTG ($57.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, Button calls $1.75, SB raises to $8.50, BB calls $8, Hero raises to $54.55 (All-In)

well obviously your way ahead of sbs 3 betting range though im definitely worried about what the bb has, as if hes competent he knows your likely to 4 bet fairly lightly here against sbs frequent 3 betting from this position. However you cant put him on aa and kk all the time so I cant see any option other than to 4 bet get/it in.

I'm torn between this and $26; I don't think either is bad so long as you've shown a propensity towards flinging poo (which I'm sure you have at some point over 114 hands)

Hugely standard, you can push or you can 4 bet small and get it in.

SB - its a squeeze, so squeeze % more relevant here, but either way prolly too small sample size

BB - i think 4bet % is what matters here or call 3bet %...


I play it the same though.

Originally Posted by Alexos

I play it the same though.

Would you spike the Q on the river to pwn AA, too? Just wondering.

I do not think going all in preflop their makes any sense. Instead maybe reraise once more and get it down to just 3 or 2 players and see how the flop comes. If its a favorable one for you then you wanna raise big or go all in

Originally Posted by kmind

Originally Posted by Alexos

I play it the same though.

Would you spike the Q on the river to pwn AA, too? Just wondering.

Yeah, thats the only reason I would play it the same.... if I didnt feel the Q coming I would have open mucked

nh

Originally Posted by Mr Bigcity

I do not think going all in preflop their makes any sense. Instead maybe reraise once more and get it down to just 3 or 2 players and see how the flop comes. If its a favorable one for you then you wanna raise big or go all in

You have to take in account of ranges/stack sizes/etc. because I don't understand this at all.

Originally Posted by kmind

Originally Posted by Mr Bigcity

I do not think going all in preflop their makes any sense. Instead maybe reraise once more and get it down to just 3 or 2 players and see how the flop comes. If its a favorable one for you then you wanna raise big or go all in

wat?

FYP

Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101

im definitely worried about what the bb has, as if hes competent he knows your likely to 4 bet fairly lightly here against sbs frequent 3 betting from this position.

God help me if there are people thinking like this at 50nl.

Originally Posted by rewfie40

Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101

im definitely worried about what the bb has, as if hes competent he knows your likely to 4 bet fairly lightly here against sbs frequent 3 betting from this position.

God help me if there are people thinking like this at 50nl.

I can assure you that there is about no one that thinks like this at 50nl

Pushing instead of 4b/get it in is probably bad for balance purposes. If you're ever 4betting light at 50NL are you going to want to push?

^^^ I don't think balance is really an issue here given the action. 4 bet bluffing in this spot would be pretty insane.

Originally Posted by Parasurama

Pushing instead of 4b/get it in is probably bad for balance purposes. If you're ever 4betting light at 50NL are you going to want to push?

wat

Is it time to troll for freeroll passwords again?

i get what para is saying, it's pretty simple yah? If you're ever going to 4bet bluff in this spot, then you won't be shoving. So when you have a real hand like QQ, play it like a 4bet bluff except call the shove.

Originally Posted by bode

Originally Posted by kmind

Originally Posted by Mr Bigcity

I do not think going all in preflop their makes any sense. Instead maybe reraise once more and get it down to just 3 or 2 players and see how the flop comes. If its a favorable one for you then you wanna raise big or go all in

wat?

FYP

f u

Originally Posted by Mr Bigcity

Originally Posted by bode

Originally Posted by kmind

Originally Posted by Mr Bigcity

I do not think going all in preflop their makes any sense. Instead maybe reraise once more and get it down to just 3 or 2 players and see how the flop comes. If its a favorable one for you then you wanna raise big or go all in

wat?

FYP

f u

stfu and go rig some more competitions. And learn something about poker before giving more advice please.

Originally Posted by XxStacksxX

Originally Posted by Mr Bigcity

Originally Posted by bode

Originally Posted by kmind

Originally Posted by Mr Bigcity

I do not think going all in preflop their makes any sense. Instead maybe reraise once more and get it down to just 3 or 2 players and see how the flop comes. If its a favorable one for you then you wanna raise big or go all in

wat?

FYP

f u

stfu and go rig some more competitions. And learn something about poker before giving more advice please.

ok phil ivey

4 bet bluffing isnt really necessary @ 50nl imo. usually a cold call in the blinds to a 3b is a high pp QQ+

Originally Posted by TwoSmeets

i get what para is saying, it's pretty simple yah? If you're ever going to 4bet bluff in this spot, then you won't be shoving. So when you have a real hand like QQ, play it like a 4bet bluff except call the shove.

so if u were to 4bet bluff in this spot, you would make it >25$ then fold to a shove, ya?

cool

Probably should have read the history before posting...

With reads given this is a shove

With no reads this is a shove anyway

/thread

Originally Posted by Massimo

With reads given this is a shove

With no reads this is a shove anyway

/thread

lol exactly

Actually i don't think flatting is a bad play if you have some postflop reads on these guys.