QQ from MP, Let's play through this hand

Kind of a boring hand, but I think flatting good pairs pre in 6max in some spots deserves more threadage.


UTG seems like a casual but not terrible player. Probably leaks money slowly.
CO is a 3bet maniac who i got around 150bbfrom. Not good.
Button is also a big losing player who is a 3bet monkey.

What do you think of flatting pre? I flatted with the intention of 4betting/getting in vs. either 3bmonkey.

As played

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($285.90)
BB ($165)
UTG ($193.30)
Hero (MP) ($747.10)
CO ($280.05)
Button ($234.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q, Q
UTG bets $4, Hero calls $4, 1 fold, Button calls $4, 1 fold, BB calls $2

Flop: ($17) 4, 3, 4 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $8, Hero calls $8, 2 folds

Turn: ($33) 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $20, Hero calls $20

River: ($73) 10 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $44



Bigger river bet? idk. See in this spot I feel like UTG is treading lightly, and on river is c/cing a medium bet but may dump to a large bet unless he's got AA/KK stubborn

I like flatting flop for sure considering its multiway and he basically says with his $8 bet face up "im scared or have nothing"

I would NEVER coldcall a minraise with QQ except like 0.5% of the time to mix it up, and this wouldn't be one of those times because villain doesn't have a full stack is and is minraising utg, characteristics that are easily correlated with being a donk.

I'd raise the flop vs this donk etc see above.

Idk, this just falls apart, why are u failing to get value with the super massive nuts?

Raise the flop for sure he's not gonna think you have anything and jam pretty light. I agree if he's a min raising half stack I'd still 3 bet even if he's utg.

I cannot endorse flatting the UTG MR pre. I like a small 3bet to induce 3bet monkeys to 4bet your iso raise. I don't really like the possibility of playing QQ OOP vs very aggro players who may flat a wide range after getting almost 3:1 IP to call.

As played raise flop please, you have a very under-repped hand and you can't credibly rep any nut hands on the board. I also don't want to let the aggro maniacs draw cheap.

3bet pre for sure. Flatting big pairs pre in 6 max is pretty worthless.

i dont like preflop; i think postflop is perfect