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Really tight lay down possibility versus Jager

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  1. #1

    Default Really tight lay down possibility versus Jager

    This is obv jager from FTR, in general a solid player who doesnt bluff much. I'm not quite sure whether or not hes calling a low pp here to the raise.

    I KNOW a lot of you guys are going to be wtf call ur retarded, and if u have that response u dont really have to explain it cause obviously i know why it would be.

    PokerStars Game #9420111255: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/14 - 15:50:39 (ET)
    Table 'Mimas III' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: TaTaTunes ($125.60 in chips)
    Seat 2: redgrape ($683 in chips)
    Seat 3: Jager244 ($201.25 in chips)
    Seat 4: CrabClaws ($297.35 in chips)
    Seat 5: umpa21 ($211.10 in chips)
    Seat 6: chicoflash ($256.90 in chips)
    TaTaTunes: posts small blind $1
    redgrape: posts big blind $2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to redgrape [Kd Kc]
    Jager244: raises $6 to $8
    CrabClaws: folds
    umpa21: folds
    chicoflash: folds
    TaTaTunes: folds
    redgrape: raises $18 to $26
    Jager244: calls $18
    *** FLOP *** [9c 3s 4h]
    redgrape: bets $46
    Jager244: calls $46 (pretty much instant)
    *** TURN *** [9c 3s 4h] [Ts]
    redgrape: checks
    Jager244: bets $75 (pretty much instant)

    He's not spewy at all.

    OMG AS I WRITE THIS
    PokerStars Game #9420331283: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/04/14 - 16:04:15 (ET)
    Table 'McVittie' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Jamie217 ($370 in chips)
    Seat 2: labus22 ($129.75 in chips)
    Seat 3: mrp123 ($200 in chips)
    Seat 5: redgrape ($236.25 in chips)
    Seat 6: Leatherass9 ($229.70 in chips)
    labus22: posts small blind $1
    mrp123: posts big blind $2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to redgrape [8h 8d]
    redgrape: raises $6 to $8
    Leatherass9: folds
    Jamie217: folds
    labus22: calls $7
    mrp123: calls $6
    *** FLOP *** [5s 8c 6s]
    labus22: checks
    mrp123: checks
    redgrape: bets $18
    labus22: calls $18
    chicoflash joins the table at seat #4
    mrp123: folds
    *** TURN *** [5s 8c 6s] [8s]
    labus22: checks
    redgrape: bets $25
    labus22: calls $25
    *** RIVER *** [5s 8c 6s 8s] [Js]
    labus22: bets $76
    redgrape: raises $76 to $152
    labus22: calls $2.75 and is all-in
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    redgrape: shows [8h 8d] (four of a kind, Eights)
    labus22: shows [7s 9s] (a straight flush, Five to Nine)
    labus22 collected $265.50 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $267.50 | Rake $2
    Board [5s 8c 6s 8s Js]
    Seat 1: Jamie217 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: labus22 (small blind) showed [7s 9s] and won ($265.50) with a straight flush, Five to Nine
    Seat 3: mrp123 (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 5: redgrape showed [8h 8d] and lost with four of a kind, Eights
    Seat 6: Leatherass9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    no line check necessary :'(. I actually, really had a sick feeling of 9s7s.
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  2. #2
    Pretty sick hand(2). I'm not good enough to comment on the other one though.
  3. #3
    danny here i think you have to keep in mind that he is a frequent poster here and your screen name might as well be X0X I3BETLIGHT X0X. i think you have to felt this because JJ and QQ are such a huge part of his range. maybe you got screwed by 10-10 but so be it if that happened. also if he knows your 3 betting light and hes a thinking player its not very profitable to call your raise with 33 or 44 cuz hes not getting yo stack often enough to make it profitable cuz your not a nit who always has QQ+.
    anyway call i think he has JJ or QQ, 99 or 1010 if your unlucky which judgeing by the second hand you are.
  4. #4
    Hand 1: I absolutely hate ur line here against jager. Since he is FTR and knows ur image you absolutely have to lead the turn. I dont think I find a fold, specially with ur image.

    Hand 2: fold turn
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  5. #5
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    It was my understanding that instant actions are genrally signs of weakness. Not saying anything either way, just adding that.


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Galapogos
    It was my understanding that instant actions are genrally signs of weakness. Not saying anything either way, just adding that.
    When is he ever bluffing here?

    God i hate u sauce ur completely right i should shove turn.

    But c-luvin while your point is correct somewhat, i remember a thread where i pointed out that i have a really tight range of threebetting to UTG raises, im pretty sure Jager will think this too.
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  7. #7
    1 post he probably doesnt remember compared to 100000 showing your laggyness

    i agree with sauce shove turn, although a c/r for value here is cool with me too.
  8. #8
    you should've moved away from US and play on party for hand 2.
  9. #9
    I think you only have to fear 101010 so I'd just shove it in in hand 1. He'll prob be stacking off with JJ or QQ vs you.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

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