Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyes
Ok well lets talk about this for a minute. I feel that on these types of boards there is a good alternative bluffing opportunity to be squeezed out somewhere because they are hard to hit and people feel inclined to barrel for that reason.

Obviously flatting the flop IP here is standard and raising would be bad. On the turn I don't think that the fact that an aggressive player bets means much, he can easily be trying to get us off some low pocket pair. We also have a balanced range since we're probably not raising our trips/houses/TPTK/JJ on the flop and we can have tons of air. So my thoughts we're that I can have some fold equity, I can rep some hands, it's a pretty cheap bluff and I might have 2 outs against a T.

Of course the problem is that the reasons that raising the flop would be bad pretty much still apply on the turn. I'm repping kinda thin and rather polarized. So if raising is bad here than I can fold or call with the intention of bluffing some on the river. Folding is a bit weak I feel because I think there's so much air in the villains range and I don't like calling because we lose ourselves the implied threat that a turn bluff carries. The pot is pretty big on the river and it's so easy for the villain to c/c Tx there that I don't think we will really be able to bluff all that profitabley.

So what is it FTR? Just be a weak ass and fold the turn?
The first 2 bolded statements don't really relate with the last one. If villains range is wide enough, you don't have to worry of him calling with Tx. (btw, he'll bet them on the river a decent amount, so his checking range is weaker. Also, if you're afraid of villains Tx range, do you think it matters if you call turn-bet river when checked to, or raise turn-bet river? I don't think he'll fold Tx anyway, fwiw)

I pretty much think If villains range contains too much Tx+ for you to profitable bluff the river after calling turn, you should fold turn.