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river value decision, 220 BB's deep

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  1. #1

    Default river value decision, 220 BB's deep

    -UTG is a solid reg, who runs at about 17/10/1.1. He usually calls me down pretty light, so I thought I'd check out a flop so deep and try hit hard
    -whats the best play on this river? lead or check/raise ?

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    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $1/$2
    4 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $503.76
    Button: $135.25
    SB: $169.54
    Hero: $443

    Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is BB with
    UTG raises to $8, Button folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

    Flop: ($24, 3 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks.

    Turn: ($24, 3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $17, UTG calls, SB folds.

    River: ($58, 2 players)
    Hero ??
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    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  2. #2
    CR everyday of the week

    If it's Sunday, CR twice
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  3. #3
    C/raise sounds good to me but then he is quite passive. Your hand is well hidden so c/raise is good hoping he has a high ( unless its )
  4. #4
    You could try to lead very weakly for like $15-$20 to make it look like a blocking bet and hope to get raised.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by JL
    You could try to lead very weakly for like $15-$20 to make it look like a blocking bet and hope to get raised.
    based on player description it s pretty unlikely

    One reason not to CR is his nittiness ; will he bet a Q or K of diamonds for value? If not then leading is fine.

    However, a nit is unlikely to be calling a multiway pot without at least Kd... If he has 10x he'll prob never call a bet anyways.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by JL
    You could try to lead very weakly for like $15-$20 to make it look like a blocking bet and hope to get raised.
    I like this, but i see genitrucs point. in the heat of the moment this is probably what i do.
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  7. #7
    i'm having trouble thinking of hands he's calling a bet with but not betting himself if you check.

    i don't think Qd is likely from how he played post flop after raising utg. Ad or Kd seem more likely.

    or could be 6d6x/JdJx...overall i lean to c/r though.
  8. #8
    If he might check behind you need to bet since if he calls light he's probably calling with a daimond. I think bet about $35 to $40.
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  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by benny999
    i'm having trouble thinking of hands he's calling a bet with but not betting himself if you check.

    i don't think Qd is likely from how he played post flop after raising utg. Ad or Kd seem more likely.

    or could be 6d6x/JdJx...overall i lean to c/r though.
    Thanks for the replies guys.

    If we check raise, how much do we check raise to? Lets assume villain bets $30ish. Do we overraise, or just check-raise to like 90-130ish for value?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks

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