Quote Originally Posted by Pelion
Quote Originally Posted by WildBobAA
Quote Originally Posted by ChrisTheFish
This is one of those spots where donks shove the nuts, hoping to get called by the 2nd nuts. I'd muck it.
Shoving the nuts here is actually a pretty good play.
yea id shove it
Whats a better play though. Shoving or check/shoving? I think its safe to assume that hero would value bet a Q if checked to in this spot.

Check/shoving gets more value out of a bare Q who might fold to a shove and any missed draw that might try to steal.