Sauce123's First Video for FTR: $200 NL 6-Max

This was recorded by Ben some time ago, but was put on hold due to some technical troubleshooting and other delays. It's now online.

$200 NL 6-Max 2-Table with Sauce123

Please rate it after viewing and use this topic for further discussion.

Nice video Sauce!

Question to Sauce/others:

In some of the riverspots where u have checked behind on previous-streets and tries to extract value, u bet like 3/4-pot, they often fold (for example u 3-bet with KQ0, 1 caller IP, flop AK4, turn A, river 6? U bet, he folds). I often find myself betting like <1/2-pot and think i am getting called very light, what are your experience with this betsize in these spots, does it get way to transparent on higher levels?

awesome! cant wait to watch it.

I like many of the concepts you are actively using in your play, you are clearly thinking about optimal bet sizing against your opponents ranges, something I feel many tags don't implement in their games nearly enough.

If you're having trouble viewing this video, let me know here:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...eo-t66945.html

For those of you that have viewed this video with no trouble:
Is the video and audio in sync for you, all the way to the end?

Nice video, solid play. Not been in many difficult spots, but not unnecessarily coming into them is a skill as well.
I like your not c-betting examples.

If you will be making another one I would love to see some more postflop agression, i.e. double barreling, betting on scare cards, turn semi bluffs etc. Don't know how often you get in those spots tho.

Xanti the audio and video were in sync all the way

is there any way when you maximize the vid to full screen to still be able to do stuff on my other monitor? its maxed in one but when i click anywhere on the other monitor it minimizes again. ???

Originally Posted by bode

is there any way when you maximize the vid to full screen to still be able to do stuff on my other monitor? its maxed in one but when i click anywhere on the other monitor it minimizes again. ???

haha yessss I was thinking the exact same thing! as I'm sure everyone with two monitors was thinking

Only halfway through, and I love it. Normally I doze off when watching a poker vid and turn it off after 5 minutes tops so good job

i reigned in my impulses to rip on ppl during the video. impressed it came out so semi-serious.

Great vid sauce, much appreciated.

vn

Your analysis of doubling the Q63cc flop was great.

For future vids, I"m sure we could all use some more analysis of doubling and tripling. Seems to me that that's one of the last things we learn that bumps are abilities from small to mid stakes.

you sound sexy





Really great stuff, Ben, nice job.

Originally Posted by bode

is there any way when you maximize the vid to full screen to still be able to do stuff on my other monitor? its maxed in one but when i click anywhere on the other monitor it minimizes again. ???

Is it like this when you view YouTube videos at full screen as well? If not, there might be something we can do. If it is, then there's probably nothing we can do.

Pwnage

Originally Posted by Xianti

Originally Posted by bode

is there any way when you maximize the vid to full screen to still be able to do stuff on my other monitor? its maxed in one but when i click anywhere on the other monitor it minimizes again. ???

Is it like this when you view YouTube videos at full screen as well? If not, there might be something we can do. If it is, then there's probably nothing we can do.

Can you give us a download of the movie? It broke off somewhere for me and it seemed like the only option I had was to restart it from the beginning..

Originally Posted by jackvance

Originally Posted by Xianti

Originally Posted by bode

is there any way when you maximize the vid to full screen to still be able to do stuff on my other monitor? its maxed in one but when i click anywhere on the other monitor it minimizes again. ???

Is it like this when you view YouTube videos at full screen as well? If not, there might be something we can do. If it is, then there's probably nothing we can do.

Can you give us a download of the movie? It broke off somewhere for me and it seemed like the only option I had was to restart it from the beginning..

Broke of for me aswell, was good untill then. Would like to see the rest and a download option would be nice indeed.

Originally Posted by Xianti

Originally Posted by bode

is there any way when you maximize the vid to full screen to still be able to do stuff on my other monitor? its maxed in one but when i click anywhere on the other monitor it minimizes again. ???

Is it like this when you view YouTube videos at full screen as well? If not, there might be something we can do. If it is, then there's probably nothing we can do.

yeah, its the same unfortunately.

Video and audio were nicely in synch fro me Xianti - fantastic video for the 1st half until it cut out.

just finished watching the video. great stuff sauce. hopefully you make a few more of these in the future.

Good vid. Ive a got a couple questions though.

First, you mentioned that you shoiuld not be c-betting in a lot of your 3-bet pots. Why is this, and which board textures are you more likely to c-bet and with which types of hands (ie. overpairs, whiffed AK, ace high flops with AK, ect.)

Second, I noticed that many times when the small blind open limps into your big blind, you are normally raising 6x rather than a standard 3.5 or 4x. Could you explain this further as well.

Thanks for making the vid and Im looking forward to the next ones. Hopefully you can get into some more three bet situations, post flop.

It seemed like his bet sizes were automated. Is there a program that does this, if so what is it called and where can I get it?

Originally Posted by meeloche

It seemed like his bet sizes were automated. Is there a program that does this, if so what is it called and where can I get it?

im interested in this also. i think its just a bet pot script that you can customize to what fraction of the pot you want as a default. i use the chip reloader AHK but couldnt ever get the bet pot one to work right.

Originally Posted by bode

Originally Posted by meeloche

It seemed like his bet sizes were automated. Is there a program that does this, if so what is it called and where can I get it?

im interested in this also. i think its just a bet pot script that you can customize to what fraction of the pot you want as a default. i use the chip reloader AHK but couldnt ever get the bet pot one to work right.

I use this AHK script:
http://www.overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/BetPot

Sauce123 might be using something else tho, but the script does what I need but you might hafto set it up to fit your style.

Heya sauce, loved the video. I found the ideas regarding cbetting very interesting. I really have a hard time with that when I'm playing a 21/17 type game. Basically I cbet HU 95%+ of the time and I have a hard time convincing myself not to. I'd love to have some more in depth explanation on the subject.

the best thing about sauce's video i found was when he gets money in hard with like mid aces or anything ahead of the limpers range. I used to just check in the BB with like A8 or something with a bunch of limpers in the pot (Thinking "GG POT CONTROL" )and never really thought about the fact that i crush their range and I'm missing so much value by not juicing the pot right there and either making them fold or making a +EV cbet on a flop that misses their range. it's amazing how effective this is and i cant believe I've been missing so much value all this time...

Also the 8X bet HU with a completing SB, seems like it can force them into making a terrible -EV call on the basis from their point of view that they're heads up, followed by an easy cbet.

great stuff

Originally Posted by Seabass

Originally Posted by bode

Originally Posted by meeloche

It seemed like his bet sizes were automated. Is there a program that does this, if so what is it called and where can I get it?

im interested in this also. i think its just a bet pot script that you can customize to what fraction of the pot you want as a default. i use the chip reloader AHK but couldnt ever get the bet pot one to work right.

I use this AHK script:
http://www.overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/BetPot

Sauce123 might be using something else tho, but the script does what I need but you might have to set it up to fit your style.

Is there a how to guide somewhere for one of these things. Cause going to this site made me realize how computer retarded I actually am.

Originally Posted by meeloche

Originally Posted by Seabass

Originally Posted by bode

Originally Posted by meeloche

It seemed like his bet sizes were automated. Is there a program that does this, if so what is it called and where can I get it?

im interested in this also. i think its just a bet pot script that you can customize to what fraction of the pot you want as a default. i use the chip reloader AHK but couldnt ever get the bet pot one to work right.

I use this AHK script:
http://www.overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/BetPot

Sauce123 might be using something else tho, but the script does what I need but you might have to set it up to fit your style.

Is there a how to guide somewhere for one of these things. Cause going to this site made me realize how computer retarded I actually am.

it seems to have decent instructions about 1/2 way down the page. im going to try it out real quick.

Originally Posted by bode

it seems to have decent instructions about 1/2 way down the page. im going to try it out real quick.

lol maybe i wasn't clear on just how much of a computer retard I am. So i downloaded the thing and its really just a bunch of images and a couple of documents with jiborish in them.

Translation?

i dont really know about AHK scripts either, i just fooled around with the chip reloader one until i got it working.

I'm assuming the vid is supposed to just end abruptly?
Took a long time to be able to download and watch this video, but maybe thats just my connection...
I would really like to see an option to just download the video instead of watching it in flash. As soon as the video ended it wants to download the entire vid all over again to watch any part of it!!!!

Otherwise, Sauce put up some more vids!!!

I'm not all that good myself but this is what I did.

Simple guide for the script:
1) Download the script from www.overcards.com/wiki/moin.cgi/BetPot
2) Download Autohotkey from www.autohotkey.com
3) Unzip and you should have 2 .ahk files, the main Betpot and a second smaller named betpot_default_hotkeys.
4) Open the second betpot_default_hotkeys in ex notepad. Here you will find what the keys do, I use the right mouse button so that would be this line:

~RButton::
Pot(getid(),"1 1 1 1", "smallblind", "ssnl", 0)
return

The 1's are the fraction of the pot you would like to bet, the first if preflop, second flop, third turn and last we have the river. So here we bet the pot as default everytime.

All you hafto do is change these numbers to fit your style. Preflop is set to 4bb raise, so if you use 3.5bb you enter (3.5/4) = 0.875 instead of the first 1. Example:

~RButton::
Pot(getid(),"0.875 0.8 0.66 0.66", "smallblind", "ssnl", 0)
return

Here we bet as default: 3.5bb pre, 4/5pot on flop, 2/3pot on turn and river.

5) Save and load the betpot script.
6) Try it.

Hope that helps.

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yay it's finally up

Sauce PLEASE post more videos.

I've watched about 5 CR videos and I've learned more in this video than all the others combined. Learned a lot about 3betting in those videos, plus how you play the isolation w/ a limper.

I'm surprised you haven't posted in this thread. I'd ask some questions if you are active in it For some reason I understand your posts/video more than similar info presented by others. You explain the why in a memorable, understandable way. I think a lot of great players skip a lot of basic stuff that they take for granted -- kinda like a smart math teacher.

Thank you!!

hah glad i helped

very nice vid, gj

High stakes HU vid plz lol.

hah... tell xianti and tyson to pay me and i will!!

I would love to see how you would use your stratagy on a full table. I have incorporated some aspects into my live game, though the raising range of most of the people at the table is very tight, so you must be careful who you 3-bet.

Nice vid sauce. Id like to see u play some 3 handed or less and see how some of your strategy changes.
Thanks..

Sauce, have u seen CTS's vid when he plays you HU?

Originally Posted by ZwiFT

Sauce, have u seen CTS's vid when he gets bwned by you HU?

FYP

Originally Posted by bode

Originally Posted by ZwiFT

Sauce, have u seen CTS's vid when he gets bwned by you HU?

FYP

Thats what i was gonna say

Great Vid. Please make another one.
btw, is there a counter on these for how many views?

Is there anyway to save this vid (or any vid for that matter) to my hard drive? Mine don't play well from home when I stream. Chitty connection.

Originally Posted by stevencaymanbrac

Great Vid. Please make another one.
btw, is there a counter on these for how many views?

He'll be making plenty. Unfortunately we wont be able to see them for free anymore so take advantage of this one, or join Leggo.

imo the vid stream is very poor. doesnt do sauce justice

if you listen real close you can hear me ripping to binger in the background

Great video lots of nice tips and theory packed in. Post some more videos and lets see some tough spots. =)