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    Default seemed like an easy fold at the time, was it?

    UTG is 18/15/4 over 180 hands, MP is 20/18/8 over the same sample. I have no notes on either and don't remember anything out of the ordinary. Not many hands on the Button, but he seemed fairly bad. I had only been at this table ~30 hands and had already 3bet 3 times and squeezed one other. At first i thought its a call because i've been so active in such a short amount of time, but after seeing MP's backraise i think he anticipated me squeezing a good % of the time, especially if the donkish button calls after him. even though i hate doing it, i can't see how at least one of these wasn't AA/KK. FWIW, if MP folds i snap this because of UTG's retarded 4bet size alone.

    thoughts?

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    saw flop

    UTG ($380.15)
    MP ($225.40)
    CO ($173)
    Button ($90.20)
    Hero (SB) ($230.30)
    BB ($105.60)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q
    UTG raises to $7, MP calls $7, 1 fold, Button calls $7, Hero raises to $35, 1 fold, UTG raises to $121, MP raises to $225.40 (All-In), button folds, Hero folds

    Total pot: $286 | Rake: $0
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    Looks good to me, I don't know if I squeeze quite that big though.


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    Once they both ship it in folding seems fine. I wouldn't always squeeze here I would flat here some of the time as well.
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    id call pre more than id 3bet
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    I can't imagine flatting here, but IF flatting is good then you should be squeezing with your air here 100% of the time.

    As played I'd call it off if both players know you're capable of squeezing and are capable of thin stack-offs. UTG can be moving in quite wide here and the flatter can have JJ or AK that didn't see value in 3-betting an UTG raise, but now thinks he can stack off given all the dead money in the pot. If either of them is a nit in big pots then folding might be more prudent, and regardless this would be the bottom of my range for stacking off.
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    hmm maybe im getting abit passive regards 3betting utg lately
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    i cant really see not squeezing here. What are the reasons you guys would flat here for?

    Mcat, i hadn't played enough hands (payed enough attention?) with any of the villains to pick up on tendencies in big pots of stack off ranges.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    Egh I'd call it off.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    id prob let it go but its probably a close one
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    so i fold and UTG goes into the tank for his whole timebank and ends up folding what he said is AQs getting just shy of 4:1 on his call. MP laughs his ass off as he takes down a 2 buyin pot without a showdown and I want to punch myself in the face because i wanted to see MP show his hand down really bad.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    I call this off if I was as aggressive as you say. It's a fold otherwise.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    lol sick hero fold......
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    wow, that's a horrible way to play AQs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadstool
    wow, that's a horrible way to play AQs
    yeah, i don't think you could play it any worse
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    sanity call

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