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    Default Set v's fish (100nl) deep - basic noobie type question

    Villain is the fishy target on the table. 50/20 type. I have a solid (I think) read that 1/2 pot bet means he'll fold to a raise and full pot means he wont. Heres the hand where I doubled up v's him for reference:

    No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (MP) ($101.50)
    BB ($105.93)
    UTG ($100)
    SB ($129.57)
    Button ($160)
    CO ($112.93)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with J, J
    1 fold, Hero bets $3, 2 folds, SB raises $14.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $12

    Flop: ($31) 4, 2, 3 (2 players)
    SB bets $29.45, Hero raises $86.50 (All-In), SB calls $57.05

    Turn: ($204) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($204) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $204

    Results:
    SB had A, Q (high card, Ace).
    Hero had J, J (one pair, Jacks).
    Outcome: Hero won $201


    Ok, we end up almost 250bb deep v's him and then this hand. I dont have a read on what the minraise PF means, his PF raises include every $ from 2-6 so far with no real discernible pattern I could pick up.


    No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($100)
    Hero (SB) ($227.67)
    UTG ($269.25)
    BB ($115.30)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 3
    UTG bets $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold

    Flop: ($5) 3, Q, 5 (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets $4.75, Hero raises $15, UTG calls $10.25

    Turn: ($35) 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets ???

    Despite never seeing him fold after making a PSB, he did seem to think long and hard before calling flop. Obviously want to build the pot as much as possible though...
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    we pretty much have to pot and watch him fold most of the time because we lose so much value from flush draws/AQ/overpairs by betting smaller because we can't comfortably ship river

    I think because of that pot sized reraise on the flop is standard this deep so like $19-21
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    If he's betting almost pot on the flop I'm c/r harder even, probably to like 18ish and then betting 35 and 105.

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    Thats pot on flop. I think maybe a Jackpot table or something and it deducts the extra rake? Not sure, but on the table at the time it shows as pot.

    Agree on flop, I got too involved there. That raise was exactly the same as I raised for a bluff previously, but against a drooler like this I dont need to balance crap like that.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    i would bomb that flop, prolly 20-22$ vs him. Pot turn, shove river.
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    well you have to raise 14.5 over his bet to make a pot-sized raise so that's 19.25
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    Yeah, he's calling down way lighter than he's betting himself so just bet big on the remaining streets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos
    i would bomb that flop, prolly 20-22$ vs him. Pot turn, shove river.
    +1. there's no other way to play this hand vs a fish.
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