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    Default Should this have been an easy fold? (10 NL)

    Long story short, after a series of over-extended (and eventually busted) BRs I'm restarting from scratch and planning on asking you guys when I come up to something that I'm not too sure about (maybe even ones I think I am sure about).

    Villan is 66/13/1.61 after about a hundred hands. My stats for the table so far was 34/26/3.14.

    My concern is about the turn play (I know, let me have it...). At the time I think I realized I was behind, but at the same time I'd convinced myself that I wanted to get it all in (that's where the min raising came from). Is that just the gambler in me thinking, or was I right to do this?

    Also, is going AI after his Turn check a viable option here? Would it change anything?

    My rational was if I was in fact behind, I can't fold here (first mistake?) but also that I could very well be ahead here against AxKh (is that giving too much credit?)

    After the hand, I wasn't sure if I beat myself here (the nonsense on the Turn), or if I was destined to lose this pot.

    I'd appreciate any input. This is at a 6max $10NL table on FullTilt, incase anyone's curious.

    Full Tilt Poker
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
    4 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $4.10
    Hero: $17.25
    SB: $14.40
    BB: $3.15

    Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with A K
    UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.4, SB calls, BB folds.

    Flop: Q T J ($0.9, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB calls.

    Turn: A ($2.9, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $12, SB raises all-in $13, Hero calls.

    River: 6 ($28.9, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $28.9)


    Results:
    Final pot: $28.9
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  3. #3
    It's fine. A lot of people will play this way with a naked king, and you'd love to get all-in against them because you'll either split the pot or win it if the river is a heart.

    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    If you want an easy no pressure start go to www. performpoker..com, guaranteed not to lose money
    Don't do this, keep posting your hands in this forum and trying to learn. By the way I think 26% is way too many hands to raise for almost all players and it's certainly too many for a beginning player.
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    About the performance poker, I don't know if I couldn't handle playing cards to a chart like that.

    I'm not exactly a beginner at this, but I'm definitely looking to learn how to play a consistently good game, rather than the ridiculous gamble-gamble-gamble version that I am so accustomed to


    As for the OP, is the correct move here to go all in after his check? Does AxKh call me there, or am I pushing him out and only getting called by the made flush? That was rationale behind the small raises, that an Ace
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by sndp
    About the performance poker, I don't know if I couldn't handle playing cards to a chart like that.
    I'd call that a leak. Fine if you don't like it as a system, but if you CAN'T face playing like that, and you like to gambool, and you've busted a few BRs you're letting your inner andreneline junkie run your game.

    I'm not exactly a beginner at this, but I'm definitely looking to learn how to play a consistently good game, rather than the ridiculous gamble-gamble-gamble version that I am so accustomed to
    Not sure what counts as a beginner these days. But look at it this way: if you're starting over, you're a beginner

    Performance Poker won't help you unless you switch to full-ring; which is a good way of learning to play tighter.
    But assuming you want short-handed then why not check out Renton's strat post . Certainly may help in getting your pf stats in order.


    As for the OP, is the correct move here to go all in after his check? Does AxKh call me there, or am I pushing him out and only getting called by the made flush? That was rationale behind the small raises, that an Ace
    I think the straight would have to call even if you pushed and you could still pick that pot up.
    But I think your line looks fine. There's no hand out there you can't outdraw on the river (except K9h) and you have the nut-straight already; if you lost it I'd just chalk that up to variance.
    Blah blah Op Blah blah

    Faith in Jesus Christ is +EV. That is all.
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    Yeah, I can't disagree that it might be a leak.

    Villan showed down 84 of Hearts, btw.

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