Quote Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101
Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
Quote Originally Posted by ATOTHEC101
Quote Originally Posted by overflow
I agree, flatting Jacks is only pussy if you're in position. Out of position it's good pot control.
lol its quite the opposite.
How is it good Unlimited Hold'them to build big pots out of position with JJ? Such a great hand to defend with the way most people attack the blinds....
but then wed have to actually play postflop poker oop, WTF!
You don't want the lead OOP with JJ in a 3bet pot, because you're playing a marginally strong hand virtually blind on the flop, playing pot control OOP is an oxymoron, there are a ton of flops that you're either going to be bet/folding, check/raise/calling against a range on the flop that probably has you killed if he's overshipping. Or even check calling two streets to fold to a big bet on the river on a somewhat ugly board. Any way you look at it JJ plays really shitty in 3bet pots OOP. It seems to me that 3betting JJ OOP is almost turning it into a bluff unless you're 3betting a button or co opener out of the blinds, then its a bit different as JJ should be crushing our opponents' CO/BTN opening range. In blind steal situations I believe it's a lot more plausible to expect to get three streets of value from worse hands in a 3bet pot w/ JJ. This would be the only time I feel 3betting JJ OOP is the right play.