Some hands for review... new to 6-max

I am new to six max and I am getting beat. Please help.


#1

***** Hand History for Game 3894994953 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, April 05, 17:25:53 ET 2006
Table Table 95966 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: donkhumper ( $114.28 )
Seat 3: jbs753 ( $31.20 )
Seat 5: Captain54173 ( $298.17 )
Seat 4: Renton555 ( $95.50 )
Seat 1: mbacker ( $166.10 )
Seat 6: kipster_2008 ( $57 )
kipster_2008 posts small blind [$0.50].
mbacker posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Renton555 [ 3c 3d ]
donkhumper raises [$4].
jbs753 folds.
Renton555 calls [$4].
Captain54173 calls [$4].
kipster_2008 folds.
mbacker calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, 3h, 9c ]
mbacker checks.
donkhumper bets [$7].
Renton555 calls [$7].
Captain54173 folds.
mbacker raises [$28].
donkhumper is all-In.
Renton555 is all-In.

#2

***** Hand History for Game 3895016961 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, April 05, 17:29:25 ET 2006
Table Peremptory (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Sammy0329 ( $105.55 )
Seat 3: i_lay_brick ( $65.95 )
Seat 4: msesar10 ( $79.36 )
Seat 5: Unicum1584 ( $135.21 )
Seat 6: plourw ( $128.10 )
Seat 2: Renton555 ( $100 )
Renton555 posts small blind [$0.50].
i_lay_brick posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Renton555 [ 8s Ts ]
msesar10 folds.
Unicum1584 folds.
plourw folds.
Sammy0329 folds.
Renton555 calls [$0.50].
i_lay_brick checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, Tc, Th ]
Renton555 checks.
i_lay_brick checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
Renton555 checks.
i_lay_brick checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
Renton555 bets [$5].
i_lay_brick raises [$10].
Renton555 raises [$59.95].

#3

***** Hand History for Game 3895235272 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, April 05, 18:03:58 ET 2006
Table Sand Blast (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: Zaksplat ( $140.96 )
Seat 4: tommyp555 ( $31.68 )
Seat 6: Atika33 ( $108.74 )
Seat 1: Renton555 ( $184.50 )
Seat 5: msesar10 ( $103.12 )
Seat 3: Edgemeister ( $100.65 )
Atika33 posts small blind [$0.50].
Renton555 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Renton555 [ As Ah ]
Zaksplat folds.
Edgemeister folds.
tommyp555 calls [$1].
msesar10 folds.
Atika33 folds.
Renton555 raises [$3.50].
tommyp555 calls [$3.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, 8c, Qc ]
Renton555 bets [$8].
tommyp555 calls [$8].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
Renton555 bets [$10].
tommyp555 calls [$10].
** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
Renton555 bets [$9.17].

#4

***** Hand History for Game 3890277196 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, April 04, 22:48:49 ET 2006
Table Table 98387 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: ramblinn ( $77.20 )
Seat 4: doxlox ( $133.65 )
Seat 6: plippens ( $144.68 )
Seat 2: Renton555 ( $268.60 )
Seat 5: BIG_PUSHA ( $88.05 )
BIG_PUSHA posts small blind [$0.50].
plippens posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Renton555 [ Ac Ad ]
Renton555 raises [$4].
ramblinn folds.
doxlox calls [$4].
BIG_PUSHA folds.
plippens calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, 3h, Kh ]
plippens checks.
Renton555 bets [$15].
doxlox folds.
plippens raises [$30].
Renton555 calls [$15].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
plippens bets [$40].
Renton555 calls [$40].
** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]
plippens is all-In.
Renton555 calls [$70.68].

#5

***** Hand History for Game 3890238063 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, April 04, 22:44:15 ET 2006
Table Table 96834 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: NowYouFold ( $103.05 )
Seat 2: gitel24k ( $91.50 )
Seat 4: Ace5_83 ( $331.45 )
Seat 5: Renton555 ( $104.55 )
Seat 6: BIG_PUSHA ( $93.50 )
Seat 3: spike1224 ( $99.75 )
Renton555 posts small blind [$0.50].
BIG_PUSHA posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Renton555 [ As Ah ]
NowYouFold folds.
gitel24k calls [$1].
spike1224 folds.
Renton555 raises [$3.50].
BIG_PUSHA folds.
gitel24k calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, 8d, 9d ]
Renton555 bets [$8].
gitel24k raises [$16].
Renton555 calls [$8].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
Renton555 bets [$20].
gitel24k calls [$20].
** Dealing River ** [ 7s ]
Renton555 bets [$25].

#6

***** Hand History for Game 3876225106 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, April 02, 22:58:59 ET 2006
Table Rogue Wave (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: rms11 ( $98.60 )
Seat 5: alexbelmont ( $250.10 )
Seat 6: kylemartin23 ( $23.78 )
Seat 7: stephan888 ( $406.64 )
Seat 10: CrossyDC ( $129.90 )
Seat 9: Renton555 ( $100 )
Seat 4: Tsutsui ( $100 )
Seat 3: JohnnySky81 ( $102.75 )
Seat 8: wensjas ( $34.53 )
Seat 2: MitsFull ( $78.90 )
stephan888 posts small blind [$0.50].
wensjas posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Renton555 [ Ad Ks ]
Renton555 raises [$4].
CrossyDC folds.
rms11 folds.
MitsFull folds.
JohnnySky81 folds.
Tsutsui folds.
alexbelmont calls [$4].
kylemartin23 folds.
stephan888 folds.
wensjas raises [$9].
Renton555 calls [$6].
alexbelmont calls [$6].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 4c, Ah ]
wensjas is all-In.
Renton555 calls [$24.53].

#7

***** Hand History for Game 3897694299 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, April 05, 23:26:37 ET 2006
Table Table 98250 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: blingtoswing ( $43.87 )
Seat 2: WiCane ( $122.46 )
Seat 6: EleitNess ( $33.79 )
Seat 3: Renton555 ( $49.25 )
Seat 4: wayoverpar ( $68.35 )
Seat 5: TJPUBRUNNER ( $49.50 )
wayoverpar posts small blind [$0.25].
TJPUBRUNNER posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Renton555 [ 2s Qs ]
EleitNess folds.
blingtoswing folds.
WiCane folds.
Renton555 raises [$2].
wayoverpar folds.
TJPUBRUNNER calls [$1.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, As, 7s ]
TJPUBRUNNER checks.
Renton555 bets [$4].
TJPUBRUNNER raises [$8].
Renton555 is all-In.

#8

***** Hand History for Game 3890668178 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, April 04, 23:34:01 ET 2006
Table Gamehendge (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: BornToRunners ( $241.45 )
Seat 6: Stealthficti ( $199.11 )
Seat 2: Renton555 ( $130.20 )
Seat 4: djlee ( $83.90 )
Seat 1: johny_l111 ( $74.05 )
Seat 5: avoz28 ( $40 )
djlee posts small blind [$0.50].
avoz28 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Renton555 [ As 9s ]
Stealthficti calls [$1].
johny_l111 calls [$1].
Renton555 raises [$8].
BornToRunners calls [$8].
djlee folds.
avoz28 calls [$7].
Stealthficti calls [$7].
johny_l111 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 2s, 4h ]
avoz28 checks.
Stealthficti checks.
Renton555 bets [$20].
BornToRunners calls [$20].
avoz28 is all-In.
Stealthficti is all-In.
Renton555 folds.

#4 is interesting. isn't your flop bet kinda big? once you do an overbet like that they know you are strong. i think you are beat and need to fold the river, unless you know something we don't about opponent.

#5 i push over his flop minraise. i think he will call with lots of bad hands.

#8 i would push over the two allins. the money in the pot more than compensates for your not so great hand. also, i dont know why you raised that much preflop.

Hand 1: I think you played it well. The flop isn't very coordinated so letting people take a card off and going for overcalls and allowing the guy behind you to possibly raise is fine.

Hand 2: If it was me I would lead out on the flop. Most people at $100 6-max don't expect some that flopped trips to lead out, especially HU. It disguises your hand well and you'll often get calls from a low PP or a 3 because they won't believe you have it. If I checked the the flop though I would bet out the turn. It puts two clubs and also a straight draw on the board. I want to get some money in this pot before it's too late. I'd hope the possible draws are my chance to do so. A person on a draw might likely call a bet on the turn, but they won't call a bet on the river if they miss. Betting the turn also gives someone that might also be slow playing a 10 the chance to raise you and makes it more likely that you'll get AI before showdown. With the way you played though I don't mind the river push over the top, but in this situation I think a re-raise to $25-30 is more likely to be called. Also, if you're going to put him AI, then I would just go AI yourself. Betting the exact amount that he has left seems more deliberate and calculated. Just pushing AI yourself is quicker, it seems more wreckless, and makes it seems more like you're just trying to buy the pot.

Hand 3: I'm not a big fan of raises of odd amounts that you have to type in yourself. Again, it just seems too calculated. It's like you're thinking that is the perfect amount to get you some value for your hand and still invite action. Flop is good. If his stack was bigger I would bet the turn harder. Since he's so short though, stringing him along to the river is acceptable I think. Again, on the river I wouldnt' bet the exact amount that puts him AI. Don't draw more attention to your bet than you need to. He's short and you know you're going to put him AI so just push the slider to the right and click bet. Sure it might seem subtle, but in my opinion it makes a difference. If you want a call from someone then don't give them a reason to think more than they should. Conversely, if I'm also happy with a fold and not so sure I want a call then I might bet the exact amount for the very reason I'm telling you not to with your very strong hands.

Hand 4: I would like to know why you overbet the pot on the flop. Was there a specific reason why? (read, etc?). I really don't like the guy's check-min raise of your overbet. A read on your opponent would be nice? His line just reaks and his lead out on the turn just makes me feel worse. His bet here means that you're also likely going to face another large bet on the river. If you're willing to call on the river then I think you're better off just pushing yourself on the turn. I really think you're beat, but even if you only very rarely get a fold by a turn push it still makes it a better option then calling the turn and calling the AI on the river.

Hand 5: I agree with Gabe and would 3-bet the flop. I would either go AI or bet large enough amount to commit him to calling when you push the rest in on the turn. He could very well be raising with a lot of hands you beat. He could also possibly be rasing for a free card. For these reason I 3-bet for enough to give him bad odds and commit him.

Hand 6: So you 4x AK from UTG at a full table, but AA is 3.5x at 6-max...? You probably don't have to worry about too much, but be aware that there are some people will pick up on the amounts you raise with certain hands. Being consistent with your PF raises negates that. That aside, PF is fine. Generally, people with big stacks like that have much looser calling requirements. Because of that, I might also re-raise the shortie to isolate him from the cold-calling big stack that has position on you. Flop is fine.

Hand 7: Way to throw in a $50 NL with a bunch $100 NL hands. I was ready to bitch at you for min rasing until I noticed it . I like the push on the 3-bet. It gives you maximum folding equity and ensures that you're seing two more cards if called. Even if you happen to be beat and he calls you have several outs.

Hand 8: I don't understand such a large PF bet either with a marginal hand, especially when you aren't even on the button. I like how you followed up your PF bet with a strong bet on the flop though. I would call the AI. You're calling ~$100 into a ~$220+ pot which is the right price for your flush draw. Who knows... the 4th person obvioulsy had some kind of hand to call your lead out on the flop and with so much money in the pot he might even call as well which definately gives you the best of it.

hand 1 i don't really get your question

hand 2 i think is fine, you can probably start betting this at the flop but i'm doubting much will get in the pot anyway

hand 3 again i don't get the question

hand 4 your flop bet is really big? either way i'm not cool getting 150bb in here, you gotta fold somewhere, i think calling turn is read dependent, i'm folding that to a tag, folding the river to most everyone.

5 i would have no idea what to do here. so gabe you just don't care if he got outflopped, just take it as it comes? and you just stick 80 more bucks in the pot right in one chunk?

6 fine, obviously sucks alex is acting after you but you gotta call

7 also fine, but you're in a very marginal ev area, its worth considering alternate lines

8 i think this fold is good. especially if you're not feeling confident right now. pushing is so borderline ev wise that the variance probably will just hurt you worse.

Hand #1: Fine as played.
Hand #2: Bet flop. The first time some PP hits a full house on you b/c you gave them a free turn card, you'll get stacked and you'll understand my theory. Like both guys said, nobody expects a T to lead here, so anybody with a piece will call.
Hand #3: Hit the turn harder. Get it in the middle and let the chips fall where they may. I don't hate stringing him along though.
Hand #4: I think you are beat here. His turn lead out signals serious strength after the CR. Unless you have a read fold to turn.
Hand #5: I love your play as long as your opponent isn't capable of a free card play. Otherwise he just hit his flush on you.
Hand #6: Perfect. Small stacks suxors. Take his money.
Hand #7: Unless TJPUBRUNNER is a LAG you are gonna need to hit an out. He isn't check-raising that and then laying it down. If he lays it down he's on air and a flop call does the same thing. Unless he's a maniac.
Hand #8: I play it like you did.

hand1.
obv fine

hand2.
imo, bet monsters outright. You will prob get more action. If you want to play a big pot remember you have to build on early streets. Of course unless you fill up (as you did) if a lot of money goes into this pot you may very well be in trouble.

hand3.
Do you have a standard tp/overpair line? Do you always pot the flop? Or do you always pot the flop when it holds a 4flush draw?
I have a standard line through all streets as a pfr 2/3pot flop, 1/2pot turn, 1/3 or 1/2 pot river. Opp may have top pair, but you putting a lotta money in with only one pair. Just thoughts, not criticism.
If opps a donk im prob all in on an earlier street. Reason for my thinking is that i can very well be holding Axs or 87s here and be drawing to the flush so i dont want to show im scared or like the flop.

hand4.
any chance of a check raise here. Im tempted to 3 bet this flop rather than get it all in with an overpair the way its played. Better i take a small minraised pot 3betting AA than end up all in on the river way behind. As gabe said, opp carried on despite your bets. Seems like a set/two pair line so i want info early here to get away from playing a big pot well behind.

hand5.
ugly. Again 3bet? More info for later streets. If these guys suck bad he calls with a king putting you on air.

hand6.
Yup same here. If thats a cas ace or AJ then either your unlucky or opps a donk.

hand7.
glub glub. He'll call alright. i like this.

hand8.
pot odds here? It must be close! Nut flush draw plus one possible overcard? Gotta be close. I dont think i mind busting a buy in considering how much i might get into this pot.

On hand 5, why do you donk the turn?

Hand #8: I don't count the A outs here. With 2 opponents already all in and another showing interest in the pot, you can bet a pair of Aces is beat. I am not sure you can count all the outs here. One of these guys is possibly on a spade draw too, so you have to discount some of your spade outs. I fold this and look for a better situation. Even if you hit your spade on the turn, if the board pairs the river you are subject to getting boated. I like the fold.
That said, I could easily see a poorly played overpair vs. TTT here, leaving you all your flush outs clean.

Originally Posted by midas06

On hand 5, why do you donk the turn?

just a strt up value bet. I figured him for a pair of K and went with it.

Check raise?

Originally Posted by midas06

On hand 5, why do you donk the turn?

If nothing else, it helped control the size of the pot. I like it.

Originally Posted by midas06

Check raise?

A check/raise might have extracted more, but I was running all over this table so I thought just betting out each street would look a little more like a three barrell bluff. C-bets had been missing at this table like crazy. I figured he'd call down with a much larger range than he would call a c/r.

Originally Posted by Renton

Originally Posted by midas06

On hand 5, why do you donk the turn?

just a strt up value bet. I figured him for a pair of K and went with it.

just push flop, get a call from KJ before he gets scared of any cards that might hit on the turn.

Hand 1: Standard, pay off a higher set and get paid by somebody overplaying one pair.

Hand 2: Only check that flop if your opponent is very aggressive, otherwise bet and build the pot. You should definitely be betting the turn after he checks the flop. As played the river line is ok.

Hand 3: I think a blocking bet on the river is alright, although it's obvious you are weak with that bet, but most don't even realize that. I think a good line here would be to check/call a bet. He likely missed his flush draw and knows he can't win a showdown, so he might take a stab it which you can pick off.

Hand 4: That's a pretty big flop bet, looks like a slight overbet. I would bet around 2/3 pot here. As played I think I fold to the turn bet, a set seems likely and all you have is a pair. He has to put you on a big K at the least if not AA, so his betting pattern indicates he has you beat.

Hand 5: Raise more preflop from the blinds there. As played I repop the flop and go from there.

Hand 6: Yeah, I call that.

Hand 7: Fold preflop. As played don't just push all in when he minraises, I would reraise to $25 and call a push.

Hand 8: Raise less preflop, in fact I would consider limping there in a passive game. I think you have to call the all in's on the flop with your nut flush draw, but I may be wrong. You are getting decent odds to chase your flush there, I don't know the exact math though.

OK here's my thoughts on these hands:

#1

I think the smooth call on the flop was ok considering how harmless the board looks. After that the hand played itself and I won a huge pot.

#2

I am thinking maybe I should have raised preflop here. As played, I think checking the flop is good here. It will give him the opportunity to bet this flop in position(which is what I would do there with any two cards). Unfortunately we weren't dealing with Freddy Deeb here, so he checked. When I turned top boat, I knew he had jack diddly, so I just checked it hoping he'd river a straight He did, and the rest was easy.

#3

Here I was dealing with a shortstack. I did my normal line up to the turn and from that point, since I was potfucked, I just decided to make small value bets to get him all in on the river. It didn't bother me that he was seeing relatively cheap cards, because there was nothing that coulda come on that river to make me lay this down. Unfortunately (you may be right DNuts about the exact amount nuance), he folded to the river bet.

#4

Standard raise preflop.

I overbet the pot a little bit on the flop because I my image was bad lag (I had been missing cbets like crazy so I slowed down and camped for a big hand like this), I figured anyone with a K would come over the top. They did and I called.

The turn sucked. First Q was a horrible card because KQ just sucked out, which was one of the hands I put villain on. This is where I should have folded. I was an idiot and just kept forcing it into my mind that he had AK. After all, AK would probably play identically to this. He flip K8o for the win.

#5

This hand was pretty simple. I put him on a pair of kings and he called me down all the way with AK. I chose not to push harder because 88/99/89 were possibilities on the flop. I tried to play a relatively small pot here.

#6

This hand sucked. I know I played it right though. The guy behind pushed and I had to fold. He'd flopped a set of 4s and I had the shorty's QQ beat like I thought.

#7

In retrospect, I don't like the semibluff play here. I don't think I had any FE. Is it ever a good idea to 3bet a semibluff? It seems like the only time you have any FE is when its the second bet. It worked out awfully, I rivered a 2 but villain already had a better two pair on the flop.

#8

I don't remember why I bet so much preflop here. Beyond that I think that a flop c-bet was pretty marginal here with so many players to see the flop. As for the call its close I suppose, but I figured with boat outs it couldn't be +EV.

Hand 8, I think is a call. You have one guy to act after you (that already called your cbet) and his odds would go up to call as well. Did he call? If he goes in then you have excellent odds to chase. Without him in it's still close enough.

I had two hands last week where I was given marginal pot odds and huge implied odds to make a call with a gutshot, but I was sick of chasing and missing and losing money. The nut card came out and the pots were huge multiway. Instead of coming out of a downswing, I lingered a while longer because I was a pansy. I'm not saying you played like a pansy, but don't let fear of losing money in front of taking an educated risk in future hands. GL.