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Standard hands, betsizing talk
Maybe just for some review, but generally I think betsizing isn't being talked about a lot.
I'll just post some hands with my thoughtprocess regarding betsizing. If you have some thoughts, please post some.
I have a pretty complete betsizing plan for the flop. As a cbet I use standard betsizes based on boardtexture. In a some rare situations I add 1 or 2 bb if I'm valuebetting and/or 1-2 less when bluffing. I often add 1-2 bb when I'm OOP. (any comments on this are welcome as well)
Generally on the turn and river I have way less of a general betsizing strategy compared to flop, which I think is something I can improve a lot on.
I'm also particularly interested in some stuff about betting bigger because of the implications on future street (if you feel you have on edge on later streets/can steal enough pots and when you know you can valuebet next streets a lot)
#1 - villain 19/14/1.2 3bet 6% over 86hands.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($21.40)
SB ($50)
BB ($51.40)
Hero (UTG) ($53.75)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A
Hero bets $1.50, 2 folds, BB calls $1
Flop: ($3.25) K, 3, 10 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50
On a board like this with 1-2 high cards, a FD and gutshots possible, I always bet 3/4 psb.
Turn: ($8.25) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.50, BB calls $5.50
In this hand, I bet 2/3 psb on the turn because;
- I want a call from FD's and still want to charge them enough
- Kx is definately gonna call
- I want Tx to call or a hard decision to fold.
- Gutshots are gonna fold, but well I can't have it all.
My question is should I go bigger on the turn, assuming it's more likely I'm folding Tx, but charging Kx and FD's harder?
(also knowing that I'm gonna be valuebetting the river a lot vs Kx and will get called <-- I have a feeling this is important)
River: ($19.25) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $13
2/3 psb again, pretty much without a big plan besides getting called by Kx.
#2 - Villain unknown. Flop call is discussable, but I'd like to focus on betsizing.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($41.95)
SB ($51.50)
BB ($30)
UTG ($50)
Hero (MP) ($50)
CO ($8)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 3, 3
1 fold, Hero bets $1.50, 3 folds, BB calls $1
Flop: ($3.25) 4, 8, 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB raises to $5, Hero calls $3
On a low paired board I usually go 1/2 - 2/3 psb, often depending on it having a FD or SD possibly.
Turn: ($13.25) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
River: ($13.25) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB calls $10
3/4 psb, more or less without a plan. Ofcourse I'm rarely getting called, does that make it more a <1/2 or full pot (or overbet) spot?
#3 - Villain 27/7 over only 15 hands.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($53.90)
Hero (UTG) ($50)
MP ($69.70)
Button ($47.50)
SB ($52.35)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J
Hero bets $1.50, 1 fold, Button calls $1.50, 2 folds
Flop: ($3.75) 2, 5, J (2 players)
Hero bets $3, Button calls $3
This is a situation I add some bb's to my cbet size because I'm valuebetting and am OOP (and I think villains range is quite inelastic).
Turn: ($9.75) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, Button calls $7.50
Another turn spot I use a size not while not really thinking about it. I gues it's like:
- This board didn't hit me well and I have a monster
- Both me and villain can have a decent amount of draws
- I'm OOP
- Let's go 3/4psb
(2/3 - 3/4 psb's feel like they are often just those in between sizings that are fine almost but also not optimal a lot)
River: ($24.75) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $15
A 3/5 psb, again without much of a plan other than hoping villain has Jx or has 9x/bluff when he shoves. Is this a situation to c/r as the PFR? Or bet small to induce?
#4 Villain 28/23/3.7 over 163 hands, no actual reads.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($65)
SB ($47.75)
BB ($58.85)
UTG ($64.50)
MP ($52.25)
Hero (CO) ($50.75)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 9
2 folds, Hero bets $1.50, Button calls $1.50, 1 fold, BB calls $1
Flop: ($4.75) 4, 9, Q (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.50, Button calls $3.50, 1 fold
3/4 psb in this 3way flop with a lot of straight draws, AND I'm beating TP.
I would go bigger if there was a FD as well.
Especially in situations where you beat TP, is there merit in betting bigger (like 5/6 psb) to build a pot to get even more value on later streets? (assuming you'll fold a little more worse hands)
Turn: ($11.75) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $8
Board didn't change, I bet 2/3 psb to get a call from Qx, TT/JJ and JT and give 9x or gutshot+over a decision. Again, can I go bigger because Qx-JT are gonna call anyway, JJ/TT probably and gutshot+overs aren't?
#5 - Villain is a standard small stakes TAG
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Button ($76.50)
SB ($52.05)
BB ($50.45)
UTG ($51.40)
Hero (MP) ($50.75)
CO ($49.60)
Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A
1 fold, Hero bets $1.75, 1 fold, Button calls $1.75, 2 folds
Flop: ($4.25) 7, 3, 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, Button calls $3
A little bigger then standard as raised UTG (strong range) and OOP.
Question is should I make up a plan to get allin on the river vs villains overpairs already? (5/6, 5/6, shove)
Or do you think it´s too obvious as I can´t really do that with my whole range here?
Turn: ($10.25) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $8, Button calls $8
Big bet, plan is only pointed towards getting maximum value from villains overpairs now.
River: ($26.25) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $21
It sucks to not be able to shove here
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