Standardo?

1)
Good TAG 23/18/aggro opens pot OTB at 2/5 6max. I flat 88 in the SB, BB folds.

Pot ($38.5): J42
I check, he bets $30, I call.

Turn ($97): K
I check, he bets $76, I call.

River ($249): 8
I check,

2)
Kinda weaktight TAG 22/14 opens for pot in the CO at 2/5 6max. I flat 78 OTB. Blinds fold.

Flop ($42) 25J
He cbets $33, I raise to $105,

1. 3-ball pre is std. I would rather call turn if an ace hit. A king hits your range better than his.

2. I don't specially like it because there aren't any very good turns for barreling if he calls. But I guess it's ok against this guy.

Originally Posted by pocketfours

1. 3-ball pre is std. I would rather call turn if an ace hit. A king hits your range better than his.

Do you 3bet TT and JJ pre as well?
I don't see how the K hits my range at all except for KJ, an Ace is pretty hard for me to hit also. The way I see it an ace is a better bluffing card for him but it also hits his range hard, on the flip side he may bluff a K less but it actually hits his range less also so they even out in terms of whether I should call or not.

Originally Posted by pocketfours

2. I don't specially like it because there aren't any very good turns for barreling if he calls. But I guess it's ok against this guy.

Firstly I think his calling range is very narrow, basically everything he wants to continue with has to ship it in on the flop. His most likely calling hands would be something like AT no or JxJ. Do you agree this far? I think a good portion of his flop calling range is scared of a turn diamond.

1) I might just lead this river and try to get value from a J or a K unless you know he can 3 barrel air. I also flat this preflop and I like the turn call cause the K is a the next best card for him to barrel other than an ace.

2) I don't really like it cause I think is air range is much narrower on this board cause its fairly coordinated. I could see this type of weak tagg just saying fuck it and giving up on this board (as in not firing cbet). Plus as p4's said when called there aren't many turn cards that you can bluff cause most are going to improve his perceived range. I disagree that he's going to be scared of a diamond turn cause any pair that continues other than maybe a bare J is going to have a diamond in it imo.