Theme of my life - what to do with the 2nd nuts.

Fold pre?

I'm also in the just call river camp, tho I am a nit.

Originally Posted by Mr. Diamond

just want to say, that we can't make mistake by shoving, because we are splitting against top of his range

This isn't necessarily true if we weight his range more to KQ. I think that's what makes this just a call b/c I don't think he gets to the river this way with QQ as often as KQ, even though both are in his range. Also I don't think 66 is in his range as often either as he likely raises flop/turn some % of the time.

Originally Posted by caddie444

Fold pre?

I'm also in the just call river camp, tho I am a nit.



This isn't necessarily true if we weight his range more to KQ. I think that's what makes this just a call b/c I don't think he gets to the river this way with QQ as often as KQ, even though both are in his range. Also I don't think 66 is in his range as often either as he likely raises flop/turn some % of the time.

I think they are only 2 important factors in this hand - how much he is calling/3bettting with QQ pre and how much he is c/raising river with worse
- and we don't know both (especially after that history), so its tough to say

- yeah and because of it, I must agree with you - I can't give a better argument, because everything is questionable and simply: call is safer, than shove



- tbh, if I would played this hand I would just call, because I'm nit too - just thought, that shoving can be more EV+