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    Default Theory question...

    If you are better than the entire table post flop you should play at least a little looser than them preflop.
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    It depends... ha

    If they won't lay down hands when they are beat, but bet agressivley you shouldn't add any hands because most value comes from starting with a better hand and value betting.

    Generally yes you should loosen up because it gives you more opportunities to win $$
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    I think to get some good answers you need to be more specific in identifying your edge(s) postflop

    i think general answer is yes

    but if part of it is because of your image (taggy) which gives you respect and gets ppl to fold, playing more hands could backfire

    if you're simply a better hand-reader then lagg it up
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    Taken as a general rule, I would say no. The added value you get by using your postflopedge more, will be lost by giving an edge to you opponents preflop. But it really depends on how much better you are postflop, and how much looser you play preflop.

    I would agree if you said "you should play looser on a table full of players with worse postflopskills than on a table full of better players".
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    If you said you should play looser pre-flop than you normally would, I'd agree with you. But that doesn't mean you should be playing quite as loose as the riff-raff at the table. Often times, if a player sucks post-flop, it's an extension of the fact that he's a terrible player overall. He calls with garbage hands preflop and takes them way too far. It just won't be profitable to loosen up to the extent that you're playing even looser than this idiot.
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    Well if I say specifically you are playing against a player heads up, and he plays 90% of hands, and you know you are better post flop then him. Shouldn't you then play almost 100% of hands to get the most equity as each hand you play you most likely has an edge on.

    If the answer to this is yes, then does it not also apply to a table with more players? obviously, if there is a guy who plays 95% of hands at a table and he folds, you would take him out of the equation (your equation would be play hands equivalent to the average range of the people still in/left in the pot.)

    This logic is probably flawed which is why i didn't get specific with it. I am just saying that if a table is loose and you have an edge post flop, you should play loose correct? that is if you are able to correctly play that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Shouldn't you then play almost 100% of hands to get the most equity as each hand you play you most likely has an edge on.
    I think your reasoning is incomplete here. Playing 100% of your hands is probably +EV against this opponent. But it's not neccessary the most +EV, because your didn't include the +EV you'd get by playing tighter preflop in your equation.

    Of course if your edge was huge, say you play heads-up against your dog, than playing more hands > the loss of preflopedge.
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    Default Re: Theory question...

    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    If you are better than the entire table post flop you should play at least a little looser than them preflop.
    YES, but postflop edge doesnt mean as much when you are always out of position, so use the button!
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    If the players are calling stations (therefore your advantage beign maximum profit on good hands) then playing more hands may allow you to make a greater profit, but to make sure that no one else beats you i would only play more hands when there are tight-players pre-flop.

    If however you are with Lags who bet into your good hands i would just stay with my normal pre-flop strategy, because you would probably make a loss on haveing to fold many hands you do not make.

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