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  1. 10-10-2007 12:47 AM #1
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    Default thin value?

    can someone indulge me?
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  2. 10-10-2007 01:32 AM #2
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    As far as I know it's where you may be behind but you're ahead just enough of the time to make betting +EV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    As far as I know it's where you may be behind but you're ahead just enough of the time to make betting +EV.
    That makes a lot of sense but I always thought of it as a smallish value bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    As far as I know it's where you may be behind but you're ahead just enough of the time to make betting +EV.
    yeah that's pretty much it. A bet that is barely +EV.
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  5. 10-10-2007 12:22 PM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    As far as I know it's where you may be behind but you're ahead just enough of the time to make betting +EV.
    yeah that's pretty much it. A bet that is barely +EV.
    Not really, sometimes its obviously really +EV but its not obviously so to bad players.

    You know those spots where your wondering if you should bet for value or not but you puss out? Start betting.

    It's essentially spots where you feel like your ahead of opp almost every time but you have a bad hand, you should probably bet.

    Example.
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    I raise 99 to .4 pre in the CO get a call from from the BB

    flop comes KK2, he checks you bet .65 he calls.

    turn is a 3. He checks you check.

    River is a T. He checks again you should bet most of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    As far as I know it's where you may be behind but you're ahead just enough of the time to make betting +EV.
    yeah that's pretty much it. A bet that is barely +EV.
    Not really, sometimes its obviously really +EV but its not obviously so to bad players.

    You know those spots where your wondering if you should bet for value or not but you puss out? Start betting.

    It's essentially spots where you feel like your ahead of opp almost every time but you have a bad hand, you should probably bet.

    Example.
    .5/.10 NL
    I raise 99 to .4 pre in the CO get a call from from the BB

    flop comes KK2, he checks you bet .65 he calls.

    turn is a 3. He checks you check.

    River is a T. He checks again you should bet most of the time.
    so in most instances it is like b/f river bet?
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  7. 10-10-2007 03:04 PM #7
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    http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-61106.htm

    Hand 2 is what I'd define as thin vbetting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    As far as I know it's where you may be behind but you're ahead just enough of the time to make betting +EV.
    yeah that's pretty much it. A bet that is barely +EV.
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  9. 10-10-2007 06:13 PM #9
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    Here's an example of thin value.. although it may be spew, idk

    Dealer: andersgust posts Small Blind $0.50
    Dealer: R3sistance posts Big Blind $1
    Dealer: Dealing cards
    Dealer: Your cards
    Dealer: ToddHogan folds
    Dealer: andersgust raises $3
    Dealer: R3sistance calls $2.50

    Dealer: Dealing Flop
    :Th: :Tc:
    Dealer: andersgust checks
    Dealer: R3sistance checks

    Dealer: Dealing Turn

    Dealer: andersgust checks
    Dealer: R3sistance bets $4
    Dealer: andersgust calls $4

    Dealer: Dealing River
    :Ts:
    Dealer: andersgust checks
    Dealer: R3sistance bets $9
    Dealer: andersgust calls $9
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Example.
    .5/.10 NL
    I raise 99 to .4 pre in the CO get a call from from the BB

    flop comes KK2, he checks you bet .65 he calls.

    turn is a 3. He checks you check.

    River is a T. He checks again you should bet most of the time.
    I had a hand just like that the other day at 50NL. Except I had JJ and the BB check-raised the river all in (he had a 50 BB stack). I am also a tournament donk so I called (was getting okay odds and couldn't put him on a K) and he flipped KT
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  11. 10-10-2007 07:51 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    As far as I know it's where you may be behind but you're ahead just enough of the time to make betting +EV.
    yeah that's pretty much it. A bet that is barely +EV.
    How does this explanation help Will at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-61106.htm

    Hand 2 is what I'd define as thin vbetting.
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  13. 10-10-2007 08:23 PM #13
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    yeah i think i have a decent understanding of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    As far as I know it's where you may be behind but you're ahead just enough of the time to make betting +EV.
    yeah that's pretty much it. A bet that is barely +EV.
    How does this explanation help Will at all?

    And ash sick value.
    i just felt like it was a clear and concise definition.
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  15. 10-10-2007 09:17 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Quote Originally Posted by Ash256
    As far as I know it's where you may be behind but you're ahead just enough of the time to make betting +EV.
    yeah that's pretty much it. A bet that is barely +EV.
    How does this explanation help Will at all?

    And ash sick value.
    i just felt like it was a clear and concise definition.
    You can know the definition of something and not have a clue about its applications.
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