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    Default top two good?

    Dont have many hands on villian but hes running in the 35/11 range.

    Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP ($233.21)
    CO ($113.97)
    Button ($279.30)
    SB ($105.45)
    Hero ($245.80)
    UTG ($81.95)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, A. SB posts a blind of $1.
    UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, 1 fold, Button raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero calls $8, UTG folds, MP folds.

    Flop: ($25) 5, A, Q (2 players)
    Hero bets $18, Button raises to $46, Hero ...
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    IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?

    you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....

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    Easy reraise. Or call and donk the turn.

    I'd probably check-raise the flop.
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    I'd probably shove, villain will likely call with AK/AJ/AT as well as Axc. There isn't much reason to just call here, if he's bluffing he probably shuts down anyways, but if he is bluffing with a gutshot or something and hits one of his outs that would suck.
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    reraise, either push or bet an amount that will commit him to the pot on the turn if he just calls your reraise instead of pushing back over the top of you. whatever has the best chance of getting as much money as possible from him. he's more likely to put more money in on flop after a reraise than on successive streets (another broadway or club might kill action for you).
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    Quote Originally Posted by aislephive
    I'd probably shove, villain will likely call with AK/AJ/AT as well as Axc. There isn't much reason to just call here, if he's bluffing he probably shuts down anyways, but if he is bluffing with a gutshot or something and hits one of his outs that would suck.
    An argument for just calling is that he folds A-K, A-J or A-T to another raise. Calling and leading the turn probably wins the maximum from these hands if he's reasonably likely to check behind on the turn with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsaxton
    I'd probably check-raise the flop.
    Why? Dont you want to lead the flop so opp reraises you with a strong ace? Doesnt checkraising reveal the strenght of our hand and makes it easier for opp to fold?
    (this might be a dumb question, but I rarely checkraise)
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    Hero raises to $130, Button raises $223.30 (All-In), Hero...

    It's a little over 105 to call.
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    you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....

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    Hero calls because the pot is huge.
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    he isn't raising 55 behind two limpers, so either you have him crushed or he has AA/QQ of which there is only one possible combination of each. I think he has :Ac: :Kc:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    he isn't raising 55 behind two limpers, so either you have him crushed or he has AA/QQ of which there is only one possible combination of each. I think he has :Ac: :Kc:
    That's very possible but AA/QQ/55 are in the equation and have him crushed. Plus AKc has a ton of outs here. 55 may be less likely given his preflop raise but AA/QQ are very likely given the action. I think AKc would just push over your initial raise because the fold equity is higher and he's not looking for you to stay in the hand. Add all that up and a crying fold is the right move.

    We are supposed to put opps on a range of hands given the action. It's convenient to put them on the only hand we currently beat and say we called because we put them on it.

    I don't know if somebody has the tool (pokerstove?) to put AQ vs. AA/QQ/AKc/(55?) and compare vs. our equity. That would be helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r8ed
    Add all that up and a crying fold is the right move.
    Folding is out of the question. You have top two, you've already raised almost all your chips into the pot, and you're getting insane odds. I instacall this even though I suspect I'm beat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r8ed
    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    he isn't raising 55 behind two limpers, so either you have him crushed or he has AA/QQ of which there is only one possible combination of each. I think he has :Ac: :Kc:
    That's very possible but AA/QQ/55 are in the equation and have him crushed. Plus AKc has a ton of outs here. 55 may be less likely given his preflop raise but AA/QQ are very likely given the action. I think AKc would just push over your initial raise because the fold equity is higher and he's not looking for you to stay in the hand. Add all that up and a crying fold is the right move.

    We are supposed to put opps on a range of hands given the action. It's convenient to put them on the only hand we currently beat and say we called because we put them on it.

    I don't know if somebody has the tool (pokerstove?) to put AQ vs. AA/QQ/AKc/(55?) and compare vs. our equity. That would be helpful.
    Are you joking?? AA/QQ are extremely unlikely, he would have to have the case AA or QQ. Somebody who's PFR is 11% probably isn't raising a small pair after two limpers, so 55 is also remote. We're WAY ahead of his range, we have a ton of chips committed and the pot is massive, not to mention that we started the hand with only 120xbbs. If stacks were 250xbb deep or something then we can play it a little more cautiously, but here this is a very easy call. Since most people who post hands like this post them because they lost I'll assume Villain did indeed have AA/QQ, but this is a small portion of the time. People at 200nl overplay TPTK or TPGK to death.
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    I lead out on the flop and smoothcall the raise, then check/raise the turn all in.

    As played, I think he has AK clubs or A5, with a slight chance of QQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsaxton
    Quote Originally Posted by r8ed
    Add all that up and a crying fold is the right move.
    Folding is out of the question. You have top two, you've already raised almost all your chips into the pot, and you're getting insane odds. I instacall this even though I suspect I'm beat.

    This sums up what I thought. I dont see how I could possibly fold.
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    IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?

    you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaaaaaak
    I lead out on the flop and smoothcall the raise, then check/raise the turn all in.

    As played, I think he has AK clubs or A5, with a slight chance of QQ.
    Why would you call? If hes bluffing hes probably done, and there really arent a whole lot of safe cards I want to see on the turn.

    You think he raised with A5 after two limpers?
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    IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?

    you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....

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    Sooo, what were the results.
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    standard. AA
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    IIbeatsUU: lol u raised with that?

    you mini raised, therefore you desereve whatever you get....

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    No seriously, learn to runner runner quad. It will improve your win rate for sure ..

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