TPNK c/mraised on flop

Villain is 18/10/3.85, Hero has been active. Do we value bet this river?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($1224.30)
UTG ($822)
MP ($609)
Hero ($1350.42)
SB ($1089.59)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 5. SB posts a blind of $3.
2 folds, Hero raises to $18, SB (poster) calls $15, 1 fold.

Flop: ($42) A, 7, K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $30, SB raises to $60, Hero calls $30.

Turn: ($162) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $122, Hero calls $122.

River: ($406) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, HalvSame...

Final Pot: $406

i probably fold flop, as played check.

i fold this. if you have been LAgging it up alot then maybe he is doing this w/ a K, but i think he shows up w/ a better Ace.

I would just check behind. His hand looks like A10.

Also I would probably never bet this flop unless I had sick history with villain and I thought I could go to war profitably w TPNK.

dont even think about betting unless its as a bluff.

Why are we even calling the flop minraise?
The only way i bet here is as a bluff.

think about the merits of the third option....

I did check behind. I guess I should have posted the hand up until his flop c/raise only. Do we really need two pair or better to continue against a flop c/minraise when we are obviously playing a wide range up on the button in these spots?

gabeezor, do u mean 3-bet flop?

im a sicko

stacks are kinda deep and villian is tight but probably doesn't have that strong of a hand given action and board, so a 3bet is good as a bluff

the thing is with 3 betting - it turns a hand with decent showdown value into a bluff.

also people who check minraise are usually very poor players who cant fold TP anyway.

Originally Posted by Toadstool

the thing is with 3 betting - it turns a hand with decent showdown value into a bluff.

yea thats the idea when we are probably behind anyway on the flop

Originally Posted by Toadstool

also people who check minraise are usually very poor players who cant fold TP anyway.

Granted, it isn't a check/mr but whatever.

POKERSTARS GAME #8924207795: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2007/03/16 - 00:30:53 (ET)
Table 'Honoria V' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Renton555 ($1006 in chips)
Seat 2: DF_Newb ($428 in chips)
Seat 3: natdog100 ($523.05 in chips)
Seat 4: bcdigger ($243 in chips)
Seat 5: FoolMeTwice ($514.20 in chips)
Seat 6: ZenDoKai ($352.90 in chips)
DF_Newb: posts small blind $2
natdog100: posts big blind $4

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Renton555 [4c 4s]

bcdigger: calls $4
FoolMeTwice: folds
ZenDoKai: folds
Renton555: raises $12 to $16
DF_Newb: folds
natdog100: raises $36 to $52
bcdigger: folds
Renton555: calls $36

*** FLOP *** [9c 2s 4h]

natdog100: bets $84
Renton555: raises $84 to $168
natdog100: raises $303.05 to $471.05 and is all-in
Renton555: calls $303.05

*** TURN *** [9c 2s 4h] [Ac]

*** RIVER *** [9c 2s 4h Ac] [Qs]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

natdog100: shows [As Th] (a pair of Aces)
Renton555: shows [4c 4s] (three of a kind, Fours)
Renton555 collected $1049.10 from pot

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He's harmlessly creepy yet fascinating all at once.