Select Page
Poker Forum
Over 1,292,000 Posts!
Poker ForumShort-Handed NL Hold'em

Turn push 2ndPair+FD

Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1
    euphoricism's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    5,383
    Location
    Your place or my place

    Default Turn push 2ndPair+FD

    Villain is pretty unknown since I just sat, but he has min-raised me on the turn before and I folded top pair to it, so I figured he might be just doing that again as a steal thinking I had nothing. He might also have me outkicked, an overpair, or some random hand with a 3 in it, but I have FD outs as well.

    Is this a push?

    Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    saw flop|saw showdown

    UTG ($21.35)
    MP ($8.75)
    Hero ($29.80)
    Button ($26.35)
    SB ($66.50)
    BB ($9.50)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with T, 7.
    1 fold, MP calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: ($1.25) 5, T, 3 (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $1.25, Button calls $1.25, SB folds, BB folds, MP folds.

    Turn: ($3.75) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $3.75, Button raises to $7.5, Hero pushes...
    <Staxalax> Honestly, #flopturnriver is the one thing that has improved my game the most.
    Directions to join the #flopturnriver Internet Relay Chat - Come chat with us!
  2. #2
    gabe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    13,804
    Location
    trying to live
    can you show the other hand where you folded TP against him? it might make this easier
  3. #3
    euphoricism's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    5,383
    Location
    Your place or my place
    long gone, using UB without the hand grabber thing.

    It was standard, I bet into him on the turn, he minraised, I folded top pair mid-kicker.
    <Staxalax> Honestly, #flopturnriver is the one thing that has improved my game the most.
    Directions to join the #flopturnriver Internet Relay Chat - Come chat with us!
  4. #4
    If I am going to play the draw this fast I would rather do it on the flop. When the turn hits and we only have 1 more card our equity takes a huge drop. On the flop against a single pair type of hand we have the advantage, on the turn our opponent is about a 65:35 favorite. Now, if you put him on a bluff a high percentage of the time you could see yourself become a favorite again, but I think its close.

    I hate spots liket his though. The pot is still small and you have a decent effective stack behind so I wouldnt hate a call, but I really dont know.
  5. #5
    gabe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    13,804
    Location
    trying to live
    i think calling here is better than pushing, but im not sure
  6. #6
    I think I just check call the turn. Our equity goes way down after the river. We don't want loads of money in the pot now.
  7. #7
    Robert's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    1,121
    Location
    Kokkedal, Denmark
    Call>push. You need a lot of folding equity in this spot and I doubt you have it against an unknown, even if he has minraised you on the turn before.
  8. #8
    If villian is stealing then pushing is horrible. I think the only range for which a re-raise is good is if villain has another flush draw (probably better one). If villain has overs or A5 (no fd) he is drawing to only 4-5 outs, and you might stack him if you hit a club that pairs him.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •