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  1. #1

    Default Turn TP and clueless

    This hand wasn't recorded in my database for some reason so this is off of memory. I am still working the kinks out in PT3.

    100nl 6 handed 100bb eff

    villain is 21/14/1.9 and raise from MP to 3.5
    I 3 bet from the BB with AhKs to 14
    Villain calls.

    Flop comes TdQh7c ($29)
    I bet 20
    Villain calls

    Turn TdQh7cKc
    Do I bet this for value? I am not sure what someone passive/nitty is coming along on that board that I beat.
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    What about AQ, KJ, QJ, JT and JJ?

    Not all of them will always be in villains range, but most of them at least sometimes.
    KK is unlikely, KQ unlikely.

    I guess against some this is a b/f, against some b/c and against some c/shove. I'm not sure what is standard, probably b/c?
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    i think a bet/call is your best option here. As minSim said theres tons of value here from JJ.Qj.AK.KJ,AQ, hearts. Its a bet call simply because a bet fold isn't really an option give the pot and how much you have behind.

    This is an easy shove. Your not ahead always but you dont need to be.
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    b/c here. think about it, he improves w/ J9 (which is unlikely), KQ, KT, or AJ(very unlikely).

    b/f is terrible.
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    Other reads besides numbers would help.

    Betting isn't bad. Either way, I'm probably getting the money in. I'm not happy about it, we probably got out-drawn, but I'm getting it in.

    Checking isn't bad, if we're going to put it in anyway we might as well let him do it for us....I'm checking and hoping he does the same, hoping an Ace or Nine doesn't happen and probably stacking off......sucks to lose money but it happens.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UG
    Either way, I'm probably getting the money in. I'm not happy about it, we probably got out-drawn, but I'm getting it in.
    lol, so pessimistic!
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    Just shove you still beat plenty of his range and have suckout equity.
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    b/f is terrible because we have exactly a PSB left. Shove it in.
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    if you were deeper you could consider folding. You are behind a lot here but folding is silly considering pot size. You could C/F flop, but not turn. Flop - if he's calling 3b with a narrow range you can c/f the flop. if its a wide range we have to cbet

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