two hands against two donkeys

1) villian is a 71/19/6/150 donkey but they are mined hands cause i have no important notes. I feel like these type of players only three bet big hands cause they want to see flops, and it was a min3b... but wtf. I have 17 outs vs. anything thats beating me but a set, and these people NEVER play sets like this, obv.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

BB ($68.30)
UTG ($49.25)
MP ($47.25)
Hero ($78.95)
Button ($186.30)
SB ($67.05)

Preflop: Hero is CO with , .
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, Button raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.25.

Flop: ($6.75) , , (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.5, Hero raises to $5, Button raises to $10, Hero calls $4.50.

Turn: ($26.25) (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $173.8 (All-In), Hero has $68


2)villian runs 70/12/.5 I saw him over shove bluff like 20 mins ago. this has to be a money read in a spot like this, but it also still looks like a dumbass who slow played a flopped set/straight that is trying to get too much value on the riv. fwiw he almost insta shoved it. confused, snap call?.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Hero ($50)
MP ($113.80)
CO ($8.50)
Button ($104.40)
SB ($22.15)
BB ($82.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with , .
Hero raises to $1.75, MP calls $1.75, 4 folds.

Flop: ($4.25) , , (2 players)
Hero bets $3, MP calls $3.

Turn: ($10.25) (2 players)
Hero bets $7, MP calls $7.

River: ($24.25) (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $40.5, Hero has $38

#1 i doubt you are ever ahead here. i doubt he has a set, but just do the math.

#2 fold.

Dont we check river in hand 2 to induce a bluff? If so, how do we fold just because its a big bluff, when we've already seen that villian makes pushes like this as bluffs?

1) fold. you need ~ 2:1 here if he doesnt have a set, and youre not getting anwhere near that. this really looks like a horribly played overpair.

2) i was going to say easy fold here but you gave him the chance to bluff and he did. i snap this off because i think he shows up here with like Kdxd or Qdxd here alot.

Don't raise the flop on hand 1, just thank god he is keeping the pot small