two pair, but check raised on turn...

-no reads on villain, this is one of his first hands at the table
-in retrospect.. I should have bet the flop harder, but what to do on this turn?

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $329.09
Hero: $453.10
Button: $293
SB: $81.53
BB: $227.17

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with
UTG folds, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: ($17, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls.

Turn: ($41, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $32, BB raises to $70, Hero ??

I like a couple bucks more on the flop and a couple fewer on the turn. I think I call this almost min-c/r and call a reasonable river bet, fold to a push. Folding the turn is an option, it just seems so weak...

I dunno... I mean, what are you beating here? KK? JJ? A3? J9? All those hands seem really unlikely to bluff / semibluff you... A3 is the only one that makes any sense, and just seems unlikely.

Originally Posted by zenbitz

I dunno... I mean, what are you beating here? KK? JJ? A3? J9? All those hands seem really unlikely to bluff / semibluff you... A3 is the only one that makes any sense, and just seems unlikely.

So fold the turn? Or call and see what he does on the river?

I call and see a 10 on the river. If not, I'm looking for a fold there.

this is a very sick spot

I'd tend to pay off a gutter if he called to hit it though

I think your only option here is to call and read his/her soul on the river.

We're only genuinely concerned about JK and 333 though... So I'd tend to call him down with no read.

Originally Posted by Genitruc

this is a very sick spot

I'd tend to pay off a gutter if he called to hit it though

I think your only option here is to call and read his/her soul on the river.

We're only genuinely concerned about JK and 333 though... So I'd tend to call him down with no read.

I think we're pretty concerned with AQ too, no?..

ok so I called the turn


Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $329.09
Hero: $453.10
Button: $293
SB: $81.53
BB: $227.17

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with
UTG folds, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: ($17, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls.

Turn: ($41, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $32, BB raises to $70, Hero calls.

River: ($181, 2 players)
BB bets $137.17, all in, Hero pukes and folds.. ugh

I hate the range you're putting BB on.

I'd probably just shove here, fail that I might puke and fold.

Originally Posted by griffey24

Originally Posted by zenbitz

I dunno... I mean, what are you beating here? KK? JJ? A3? J9? All those hands seem really unlikely to bluff / semibluff you... A3 is the only one that makes any sense, and just seems unlikely.

So fold the turn? Or call and see what he does on the river?

Well, I dunno usually means "I don't know". I think fold. I guess he could have AK...but played very strangely. I can't fathom why AJ would c/r you on the turn... given that there is < PSB behind, I can't see calling river (unless it's a T). So fold.

he likes his hand on the turn, so id push or fold the turn.

just tough to say if it's QT/AK/AJ/A3, or KJ/333/AQ.