Quote Originally Posted by Renton
There's one other thing that kinda bugs me about hand-reading. There seems to be a contradicting duality in poker where we A) expect our opponents to fuck up and therefore we profit from their fuckups, and at the same time B) we hand-read these very same opponents by assuming that they play optimally.
yeah, but even if you dont know their exact tendencies yet you can make assumptions that someones going to play bad based on being like 25/5 or min betting the flop. so then once you see that you can start to say well it wouldnt make sense for him to do something but he could have since he sucks. i guess it would be kind of a guessing/feel thing though to decide on how often you would put a hand that wouldnt make sense to be in his range into his range.

for the hand though, a lot of the stuff he did was contradicting and after thinking about it im not really sure which piece i would lean on or why.