*UPDATE* 200NL 6max stats checkup

Anyone want to comment on what i could change?
Its only 10k hands but i feel like i got ALOT of leaks, and maybe they can be seen in those stats....
I also try to loosen up more preflop and call more and try to play better postflop...

Preflop your PFR should be over 10% but otherwise idk.

You could probably loosen up just a tad on the button. Raise a bit more preflop.

What about my blinds?I seem to loose a bit too much in the blinds, or is it still ok?On my 50NL 6max stats i only lose 0.04 in SB and 0.06 in BB.

Folding to river bets 75% of the time? Is that normal?

Wow, play more from the BB and, if it's just you and the BB, raise him semi loosely.

Steal more blinds, and tighten up a bit in the small blind.
If it's folded to you and you're in the SB raise or fold, dont just limp in.

play looser and more aggressively on the button, steal more blinds and raise more pf.

nitty. play more hands and raise more.

Originally Posted by ville18

nitty. play more hands and raise more.

im working on playing more hands in position.im not really a nit...

steal more. UTG is a little loose at 13%, but understandable if you play on a site with horrible players.

Whatever your UTG range is ive been told to look for double that percentage of VPIP on the button so if you play 12% UTG you should be playing 25% from the button and stealing at least 1/3rd the time.

To be honest you arent far off that, you probably just dont steal and bluff enough but you dont really need to that much at 100nl.

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

steal more. UTG is a little loose at 13%, but understandable if you play on a site with horrible players.

Whatever your UTG range is ive been told to look for double that percentage of VPIP on the button so if you play 12% UTG you should be playing 25% from the button and stealing at least 1/3rd the time.

To be honest you arent far off that, you probably just dont steal and bluff enough but you dont really need to that much at 100nl.

13% is definitely not too loose UTG at 6max and the better the players are would probably lead to more argument for playing more hands UTG as you are going to be playing your hands face up in EP. I also think you should be playing more than twice as wide a range in LP than you would in EP and would argue that it should be closer to 3x as many hands. While playing that tight is profitable [less and less as you move up though], I still just feel confining your game so much really prevents a lot of your progress and particularly your upward mobility

To the OP: I agree with what most of the other posters have said, and would say that the biggest thing is ramping up your aggression in LP. Opening more as a steal and just playing a wider range OTB. Even if you arent comfortable raising a wide range in LP you still need to be raising much more often all around, your PF stats are just generally passive and aggression is key at these games.

After i took a longass break and cashed everything out and rebuild my roll, im back again since half of juni.
I have 30k hands on my old pc but i havent figured out how to get them into the same database since i got my new computer.But they are basically the same stats, except that im running breakeven.(and no its not that i only post winning stats)
I also took CR subsription, helped alot ofc.

Anyway i play on a site with calling stations, so i dont know if i have to get a higher vpip or not.
I also steal more now,and am more agressive.
Any other things i can do?







Btw i also took a stab at 200NL and lost about 6 buy ins and moved down again, when i hit 4.5k ill take another shot and post some graphs/hands.

1). Steal blinds much more often

2). I would tighten up a bit in EP. That could be a difference in our playing styles though, so if you are confident playing more hands in EP isn't causing you grief then i won't tell you to worry about it. For me though playing a little tighter UTG has kept me from playing big pots OOP without a solid hand. btw i don't think anyone at 100-200NL is going to exploit that tendency, so opening more hands for decpetion in EP probably isn't necessary - which is why i play quite tight from those positions.

3). Your turn AF is also pretty low. There are a lot of good spots to double barrel, and picking those spots well is a huge boost to your winrate in 100-200NL games.

Nice winrate! It looks like you are definitely beating the game.

Originally Posted by Vi-Zer0Skill

1). Steal blinds much more often

Isn't 25% standard?Whats a good number for att. to steal blind %?


Btw i forgot to add, isnt my w$wsf% not a bit low?ive heard that it should be 40 atleast.

Ive got to agree a lot with what ZeroSkill said. You need to be opening up a lot more in position and tightening up a little OOP. I really think his first two poitns can be added together to basically say, try to be more positionally aware. Personally, I think I am around 11/11 UTG and upwards of 35/30 on the button. As for my Att. to steal, I think I am at around 35%. I also have to agree with what he said with the turn AF.

Send me a PM if you want and I can check out a session or two of yours and I will be able to give you some more specific information on hands or whatever.

k get to work

Originally Posted by Triptanes

k get to work

Teach me how to play from the blinds PLZ!

Seriously, suggestions?

alot of that had to have been 'running good' from the blinds when i played 100 uL

Originally Posted by andy-akb

Ive got to agree a lot with what ZeroSkill said. You need to be opening up a lot more in position and tightening up a little OOP. I really think his first two poitns can be added together to basically say, try to be more positionally aware. Personally, I think I am around 11/11 UTG and upwards of 35/30 on the button. As for my Att. to steal, I think I am at around 35%. I also have to agree with what he said with the turn AF.

Send me a PM if you want and I can check out a session or two of yours and I will be able to give you some more specific information on hands or whatever.

allright thnx

W$WSF: 35.34
WTSD: 21.44
W$SD: 53.41

These #'s tell me that you are running extremely well, especially in very big pots. I also think that you are probably getting owned postflop, especially on the turn and river. Your fairly low WTSD and your AF's indicate that the better players are taking away a lot of pots on the latter streets.

Originally Posted by Jager

W$WSF: 35.34
WTSD: 21.44
W$SD: 53.41

These #'s tell me that you are running extremely well, especially in very big pots. I also think that you are probably getting owned postflop, especially on the turn and river. Your fairly low WTSD and your AF's indicate that the better players are taking away a lot of pots on the latter streets.

I dunno about getting owned postflop, maybe folding a little bit too much but deffenatly not getting owned...i do make raises on turn and river with air if i feel they have nothing and i do valuebet alot more, so its not that im passive or something on the river.
I have to add, alot of times i get checkraised all in on river and i often have marginal holdings like tpmk or two pair.
Ill go find some hands to give some examples.

Anyway, i see that my w$wsf% is too low.With a good player i never see it going beneath 40.How can i fix this?Making too much folds on the wrong time i guess?Usually when i make a thin call im wrong, so i dunno.What else is their i can do?

Originally Posted by Jager

W$WSF: 35.34
WTSD: 21.44
W$SD: 53.41

These #'s tell me that you are running extremely well, especially in very big pots. I also think that you are probably getting owned postflop, especially on the turn and river. Your fairly low WTSD and your AF's indicate that the better players are taking away a lot of pots on the latter streets.

i agree on the third of these stats but not the first, my w$wsf has always been >35% and when i run good it tops out at about 45% and those were stats from 100nl/200nl but i may play in a different game from OP.

Here are my 200NL stats so far this month.I think i improved.My w$wsf is now alot better aswell.
comments?

very nice improvement! which particular points do you think made the most impact? or is it just a combination of everything?

Originally Posted by Dislexsik

Anyway, i see that my w$wsf% is too low.With a good player i never see it going beneath 40.How can i fix this?Making too much folds on the wrong time i guess?Usually when i make a thin call im wrong, so i dunno.What else is their i can do?

I was going to comment on your low w$wsf as well. I think its mostly because you're limping PF a lot instead of raising. As a result, someone else is the agressor PF and not you, and so they are probably taking down the pot on the flop a lot. If you raised PF more you'd be the agressor, and your w$wsf would go up.

Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi

very nice improvement! which particular points do you think made the most impact? or is it just a combination of everything?

Im playing a bit more agressive, and i fold less.Its still only 12k hands so its pretty small samplesize.
But in general i think my overall play is better now so far.

raise more from lp. get blind steal up higher.
i dont really like the 9 difference in vpip pfr.
and just be more aggressive in general.
overall nice improvement though keep it up.

im back to playing almost identically with the same winrate etc over the same sample.
Only minor difference is im 20/20 on CO and 27/27 on button.

Fwiw, its only small but bump up your bb to 15%, i can guarentee you make a killing from the BB with your range but you can open up a little and it still be +ev for you to do so.

i remember you arent US and therefore our games are much different even at 200nl where you still get lots of one p[air calling stations and few good players who isolate enough preflop for easy $$$$