This Virginia, is a squeeze

BB is 19/17. He's 3-bet me a couple times already.
SB is really terrible, but sane for big money.

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($200.00)
UTG+1 ($34.00)
CO ($106.00)
Hero ($477.85)
SB ($135.30)
BB ($516.65)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BTN
3 folds, Hero raises to $6, SB calls $5, BB raises to $30, Hero calls $24, SB folds

Flop: ($66, 2 players)
BB bets $42, Hero calls $42

Turn: ($150, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero????

Check behind to induce and let a big Ace catch up? Bet and hope he's being trixy?

hmm..maybe bet something retarded like 30 and see what he does?

I should also add, that I've played with BB before and expect to again in the future.

betting here gives us best chance to get it allin.

in these spts we are more likely to bet turn when bluffing while checking back and betting river if we have a made hand.

also opp cud well be looking to go c/r allin on these turns. so we miss alot of value here too. also some ppl play retarded in 3bet pots OOP when their squeeze fails.

shud probably bet $100.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

also some ppl play retarded in 3bet pots OOP when their squeeze fails.

Maybe it's a stakes thing (the 200NL guys just aren't as comfortable stacking off), but so far I'm finding the post-flop play after the first barrel to be pretty weak/tight. Heck, some guys aren't even c-betting after you catch them with their pants down. Throw in the nearly 250bb stack depth and hence I decided to make a very ambitious pre-flop call.

I lob $100 at the pot & hope for a raise.
I think this is best for meta game, since he'll always wonder if he got floated when he lays down AK here.

pf is too loose imo

I check the turn back. I feel his c/r-ing frequency on this turn is narrow because basically it's a bad spot to do it. If we checl behind we get another bet out of JJ/TT/99, let Ax catch up or decide to bluff, possibly still get a bet and raise from AA/KK/AQ/KQ and we protect our floats for when we have 77 in this spot in the future.

He could check a lot of relatively strong made hands this deep probably. Betting the turn seems better against those, checking back seems better against AK & other air. But he doesn't makes his hand or get a card to bluff(and choose to) very often. Against made hands I think your as likely to get one street of value on the turn as you are on the river and sometimes you can get two streets. Plus theres some benefit to not showing down J8o when he c/c, c/f. It'd be really weird if he were to check raise here.

bet 100% of the time.

"Check and let him hit an ace" makes zero sense to me. First of all the river is an ace less than 10% of the time, second, why are we putting him on Ax in the first place? If you thought his squeeze range was mostly real hands you would've folded preflop right? So you must think there's a bunch of absolute garbage in his squeezing range that may or may not have a pair on this board.

edit: I'd bet $90

i would bet for sure, and also 4bet preflop

Wtf is preflop. 4bet or fold.

Turn I bet. The only way he folds tp or better is if we check behind and raise a river.

bet b/c you're deep and wanna put more money in

if this was 100bb I'd def check it sometimes b/c he's betting river with monsters anyways and he can catch up if he has AK

Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

Wtf is preflop. 4bet or fold.

Been there, done that. Playing around with flatting a wider range. J8o is most certainly too loose though. Oh well, have the pre-flop poker police pick me up at work.

You need to reread that old ray zee article imo

Originally Posted by Irisheyes

You need to reread that old ray zee article imo

Yeah, I'm in a LAggy phase. At some point I'll tighten back up and be all the more dangerous for it.

4bet or fold preflop, I lean towards a fold cuz you get less credit as the button and many players stack as light as 88+ AQ+

as played i'd make a small turn bet, 1/2 pot
I don't mind a check either as he may go crazy on the river


experimenting with flatting a wide range is cool but what a dogshit hand

This turn is a bet if I ever saw one.

less than ~$100 makes it harder to get AI by the river without an overbet.

Originally Posted by Silly String

less than ~$100 makes it harder to get AI by the river without an overbet.

It's not always about getting allin.

With an unsuspecting monster, on an innocuous board, in a 3bet pot, IT IS all about getting it in for me.

Seriously though, are you planning to value the river or overbet shove?

Originally Posted by Silly String

Seriously though, are you planning to value the river or overbet shove?

I'll take half a buy-in out of it.

Anyway, I bet the turn for all the reasons given and he folded.

since your hand doesn't really matter here, if someone is 3betting too lite have you tried floating them with any success?

Originally Posted by mixchange

since your hand doesn't really matter here, if someone is 3betting too lite have you tried floating them with any success?

I think I just did.

calling with such garbage PF you simply have to pretend you totally missed and play it the same, and since I presume you would float most flops and bet most turn if checked to, you have to follow suit and do it here as well when you actually hit a miracle.

I still hate PF though, but I'm a nit!

Originally Posted by D.Redstone

I presume you would float most flops and bet most turn if checked to

Sometimes I raise the flop

Maybe if I keep at it, I'll become a bigger BAMF spewtard than PocketFours.

94$ imo

LoL, a print of this is hanging in my office: