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    Default weird shortstack hands

    Villain in both hands is loose PF and is a bit of a station, 43/8 but only if you don't show strong strength the whole hand... I'm someone who almost never checks a flop with a set, but I felt I could navigate the ROI here and get a LOT more value. Bad ideA?

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    Button ($360)
    SB ($1364.05)
    BB ($600)
    UTG ($701.15)
    Hero ($310.35)
    CO ($591)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 7, 7.
    UTG calls $6, Hero calls $6, CO calls $6, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: ($30) 2, 4, 7 (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

    Turn: ($30) K (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $18, Hero raises to $54, CO folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $36.

    River: ($138) T (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $96





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    BB ($378.60)
    UTG ($1343.05)
    MP ($760.85)
    CO ($397.40)
    Hero ($463.35)
    SB ($596.25)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with , .
    2 folds, CO calls $6, Hero calls $6, SB completes, BB checks.

    Flop: ($24) , , (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $18, SB folds, BB folds, CO calls $18.

    Turn: ($60) (2 players)
    CO bets $24, Hero calls $24.

    River: ($108) (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets $24,
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    I see no point in not betting the flop in hand 1 with so many people in the pot. Also i would raise pf in that hand.
    Also for hand 2 - why are u not raising pf? AK is a voulnerable hand 4ways.
    Larsmars: "I folded Aces today, I can't remember last time I did it, it must have been like half a year ago."
    Andypandy: "Preflop??"
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    normally I never would play either hand this way. I described these badly...

    I was trying things I normally wouldmn't do with a diff image. my image is garbage shorty.

    Hand 1 the flop is very dry. I know if anyone gets a decent piece of ANYTHING I can get a decent amount. Not being full stacked, if we think o relative payoff to our stacksize (now I've drank a lil bit and its late at this point) half our stack is big money. we cant get a full stack, but a lot of medimum strength hands might pay off our stack size.

    I probably should bet at least 15, but occasionally I try new things. remind me how bad this is. in a raised pot i'd bet this like a monkey ringing a geico bell

    hand 2 I was just calling for deception as the table really was overplaying their holdings whenever I saw a showdown. I thought at the time I was the only player likely with an Ace, as everyone else at the table raises one.

    I was basically trying plays nobody expected at this limit. probably bad and sad. I am tired and I have drank a few shots.
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    ok, basically im weaktight. Damnit.
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    nothing wrong wtih trying out some new strategies...how else did this poker game evolve to the state of play that it is at today? allthough these strategies probably won't help you win a lot of moeny.
    Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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    hand 1 is a great spot to build the pot on the flop with lots of limpers and their low SC's and PP's
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    There's a reason why people raise these hands preflop.

    Also you should almost never "switch it up" vs donkeys who aren't going to change their play because of it.
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    well

    one more short stacker... I feel like this is a fold, how are we ahead?

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    SB ($536.60)
    BB ($1327.45)
    UTG ($407.80)
    Hero ($234)
    CO ($513)
    Button ($333)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with A, J.
    1 fold, Hero raises to $12, 1 fold, Button calls $12, 2 folds.

    Flop: ($30) A, 7, 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets $20, Button calls $20.

    Turn: ($70) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $40, Button calls $40.

    River: ($150) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $40, Hero??




    My AK hand Villain had 910... so I got a decent value from a hand that is otherwise folding pre and I think I value bet the river perfectly if I could have seen his cards id have bet the same amount on river.

    On the set hand I should always bet $15 or something to pot build and fan some ppl out... but as played he had K10 which never makes it to turn and got me good value. Course if someone had 56 and turnm is an 8 im SOL.

    always just trying to explore new ways to go to valuetown

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