Wha? Srsly? Wtf?

Villain runs 17/17/2.5 over 60 hands. I haven't seen her do anything especially tricky before and she has folded to three 3-bets in a short span (not to me), so clearly she's not that stubborn either. I am running 29/22/4 and busted a guy with AA vs. his TT on like my third hand at the table.

edit: this is also her first 3bet and first limp-raise or check-raise since I've been sitting with her.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($56.65)
Button ($52.30)
SB ($55.15)
Hero ($88.05)
UTG ($52.75)
MP ($48.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with :Td: :Th:.
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $3, UTG folds, MP folds, SB raises to $9, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($19) :Qh:, :Jd:, (2 players)
SB bets $13, Hero...

My instincts tell me her preflop reraise is some major horseshit, but why in that spot? It looks so ridiculous that I almost can't believe she's bluffing.

I'd call the flop bet I guess. I would way rather 4-bet it preflop though.

Put here to the test preflop, I would shove since her 3 bet is complete bullshit imo. You can very easily get cry called by a smaller pair or some random overs.

As played I guess call flop c/f turn b/f river if checked through.

Drag the slider all the way to the right.

4betting pre seems really bad to me because if we get shoved on we are getting odds to call but were putting in 200+ bb w/ TT, and thats never a good thing at 25nl. calling the 3bet is fine, c/f turn, shove river if it checks through. I was going to say b/f river but villain would only have like $33 left and the pot would be in the $50's

Fnord, whats calling us that were ahead of if we shove here.

Originally Posted by Fnord

Drag the slider all the way to the right.

What are we beating that she's calling a shove with?

dude, she (why are we calling her she anyway?) limped in the SB after two limps. How could she possibly have us beat. Shove pre all day.

and bode what are you talking about with 200BB's? effective stacks are about 100BB's

Originally Posted by Massimo

dude, she (why are we calling her she anyway?) limped in the SB after two limps. How could she possibly have us beat. Shove pre all day.

and bode what are you talking about with 200BB's? effective stacks are about 100BB's

just for the record I got owned by somebody showing up with AA limped from the SB in this exact spot last night

what is the world coming to

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say SB has JJ here

I wouldn't expect a call and maybe even get a fold out of a better hand. Given the pot size, if I continue here I'd rather be the one putting in the last word.

200bb or not .. its only 50 bucks dude.

Originally Posted by Marshall28

200bb or not .. its only 50 bucks dude.

ruh roh

marshall will when you be broke enough that you have to pawn that computer

Originally Posted by Massimo

and bode what are you talking about with 200BB's? effective stacks are about 100BB's

eh, my bad, i made that post right after i posted in another thread dale started and it was 25nl so i just assumed this one was too.

Originally Posted by Marshall28

200bb or not .. its only 50 bucks dude.

OMFG

Originally Posted by Marshall28

200bb or not .. its only 50 bucks dude.

I certainly hope you're not implying that you make poker decisions based on how much money the play will cost you, as opposed to how many bb's are involved/pot odds etc..

$50... or $5000 its irrelevant... the advice is based on bb's not monetary value.

wow, was just joking, didn't mean to stir up so many emotions, lol. sorry

limp/rr AA is the new tricky donk trap

Originally Posted by Massimo

dude, she (why are we calling her she anyway?) limped in the SB after two limps. How could she possibly have us beat. Shove pre all day.

Wish I had. My feeling is that she had a mid pair or something and was getting cute. I ended up conceding the hand because I felt so confused by it, but if I'd gone with my initial instinct that would have been cleared up preflop real quick.

I've seen this in FR a couple of times, and both times it ended up being AK. I realize it's a different game, but the same donkeys play both.

Originally Posted by pgil

I've seen this in FR a couple of times, and both times it ended up being AK. I realize it's a different game, but the same donkeys play both.

yah if this was limp UTG and then raise I'd say AA/KK, but this is some weird limp in SB after limpers and then bumping it so I think this is much more likely AQ/AK type hand than AA/KK.

Originally Posted by Marshall28

wow, was just joking, didn't mean to stir up so many emotions, lol. sorry

thats what you say every time someone hammers you for saying something stupid. that must be because they just dont understand that you aren't capable of saying anything stupid. (for the record that was a joke).

Originally Posted by Warpe

limp/rr AA is the new tricky donk trap

its what all the cool kids are doing.

i think continuing on this flop is pretty bad

Originally Posted by nutsinho

i think continuing on this flop is pretty bad

I folded it at that bet. I had a hard time pegging her range but that board made me queasy.

wtf am i missing? flop the flop. if she hasnt got out of line/stubborn then she thinks its some sick trap. at least see her show something down before you felt this.

i would be fine with pushing pre if she had like $35 but $55 is kind of awkward because from the description i think she can find a crying fold with worse

I love how dale refers to villains as women, especially when they play a hand weird.

Originally Posted by nutsinho

i think continuing on this flop is pretty bad

They ALWAYS have it here.

Originally Posted by Muzzard

I love how dale refers to villains as women, especially when they play a hand weird.

Or maybe it's because Full Tilt has female avatars and this player was using one?

they always have AA here,don't ask me why.


Just raise or fold preflop.