Would you make this push?

After his large bet on the flop I didn't think he would fold. Do you push this knowing he is going to call?

***** Hand History for Game 2505033454 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, August 09, 11:59:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 36618 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: JEstrop ( $57.65 )
Seat 3: mr_QQQ ( $73.60 )
Seat 5: goodexcuse ( $39.05 )
Seat 6: Mojso ( $32.32 )
Seat 1: HideUrChips ( $68.40 )
Seat 2: Dragun32 ( $34.25 )
HideUrChips posts small blind [$0.25].
Dragun32 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JEstrop [ Js Kd ]
mr_QQQ folds.
JEstrop raises [$1.50].
goodexcuse folds.
Mojso folds.
HideUrChips folds.
Dragun32 calls [$1].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, Ts, Qs ]
Dragun32 bets [$10].
JEstrop is all-In.
Dragun32 is all-In.
...

ok, no way he has the flush, and i think there's a somewhat wide range of hands he could have here, but i'm guessing he's got 2 pair and this push is fine, though its not what I would do. I would call and see some cards.

I'm in. All in.

Probably safe to push. I doubt you're getting any fold equity though, as you already pointed out... he's calling after that bet.

I wonder what he has - two pair or the ace of spades? Seems like one or the other. Or maybe a set of tens? Against all his most probable hands, you have a ton of outs, or you're already ahead. Maybe there's a chance he has AJ or TT though and is protecting it.

I tend to agree with Greedo. Since you think there's no chance of him folding, there may not be much use in you pushing. Call and see what happens.

***** Hand History for Game 2505033454 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, August 09, 11:59:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 36618 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: JEstrop ( $57.65 )
Seat 3: mr_QQQ ( $73.60 )
Seat 5: goodexcuse ( $39.05 )
Seat 6: Mojso ( $32.32 )
Seat 1: HideUrChips ( $68.40 )
Seat 2: Dragun32 ( $34.25 )
HideUrChips posts small blind [$0.25].
Dragun32 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to JEstrop [ Js Kd ]
mr_QQQ folds.
>You have options at Table 55530 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
JEstrop raises [$1.50].
goodexcuse folds.
Mojso folds.
HideUrChips folds.
Dragun32 calls [$1].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, Ts, Qs ]
Dragun32 bets [$10].
JEstrop is all-In.
Dragun32 is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
Dragun32 shows [ Qd, Kh ] two pairs, aces and kings.
JEstrop shows [ Js, Kd ] Royal Flush.
JEstrop wins $23.40 from side pot #1 with Royal Flush.
JEstrop wins $66.75 from the main pot with Royal Flush.

I didn't want to call incase a card came that killed the action. If he only had two pair or a set then another spade or an Ace or nine would pretty much scare him away. I like being all in here.

let this situation happen a couple more times. you're 50/50 exactly to win this hand to KQ, 45% to tens, lower to QQ and KK: if you lost this one and then 3 more i think you'd understand why the low variance route is better. you're basically pushing for fold equity, you have no +EV

Originally Posted by Greedo017

let this situation happen a couple more times. you're 50/50 exactly to win this hand to KQ, 45% to tens, lower to QQ and KK: if you lost this one and then 3 more i think you'd understand why the low variance route is better. you're basically pushing for fold equity, you have no +EV.

I see what you mean, I realise pushing wasn't the best play here now.

The problem I have with just calling is it puts you on a tough decision on the turn. Are you just going to fold if you don't hit and he pushes, which he will. If you do hit and he checks how much do you bet to keep him around? You are basically paying $10 for 1 card, which I don't think you have odds to do.

Hell yeah its a cash game, lets gamble! If you haven't got the best hand you have a lot of outs, but my guess is you are not as far behind as you think!

Originally Posted by andr3w321

The problem I have with just calling is it puts you on a tough decision on the turn. Are you just going to fold if you don't hit and he pushes, which he will. If you do hit and he checks how much do you bet to keep him around? You are basically paying $10 for 1 card, which I don't think you have odds to do.

this is true, but to me i'd rather see a card and see what develops on the turn, possibly having to fold it, than put myself in a generally -EV situation for my whole stack.