Wtf does he have??

No reads on villain...

Game #2689509523: Hold'em NL ($0.25/$0.50) - 2006/12/05 - 00:06:33 (DST)
Table "Snebordet" Seat 2 is the button.
Seat 1: anrika ($76.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Standardi ($67.70 in chips)
Seat 3: Villain ($59.07 in chips)
Seat 4: SuNsTr0kE ($60.90 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($52.55 in chips)
Seat 6: ikZ11 ($24.25 in chips)
Villain: posts small blind $0.25
SuNsTr0kE: posts big blind $0.50
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Hero [Kd Kh]
Hero: raises to $2
ikZ11: folds
anrika: calls $2
Standardi: folds
Villain: raises to $8.82
SuNsTr0kE: folds
Hero: calls $6.82 ---> Me trying to trap
anrika: folds
----- FLOP ----- [Qc 7s As]
Villain: bets $50.25 and is all-in ---> WTF, AA doesnt do that?
Hero: folds

Is this AK like 90% of the time?

maybe he has QsJs, maybe AK, QQ, 22, who knows...but if you are behind you have 2 outs. just win it back later with a better read, he's a donk.

I've stopped trapping preflop with KK because of nastiness of the A on the board. You can build the pot pretty well preflop and they're still willing to call off 1/3+ of their stack preflop with junk.

Since Villan is OOP I also just call.
and Fold flop.

Hey buddy, You've been sitting at alot of my tables lately on crypto $25NL. And he has QsKs TP and a nut flush draw. That's all they seem to need on Crypto. How's my stats and game looking to you. If you even see with the amount of tables you play. It'd be nice to see myself throught the eyes of another goot player.

Yo Alexos

If I had invested more in this pot (like 1/3 to 1/2 my stack) I'd prob never fold but, as played, you're getting off pretty cheaply. You're prob like 47% to win at best so just puke then fold.

btw trapping w KK is fine, esp vs aggro ppl. ace ll only hit like, what, 17% of time if someone has one?

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

I've stopped trapping preflop with KK because of nastiness of the A on the board. You can build the pot pretty well preflop and they're still willing to call off 1/3+ of their stack preflop with junk.

What other hands are you 4betting with?

I personally dont view calling a 3bet with KK trapping simply because I am not 4betting enough to make it anything but incredibly obvious what I have when I do it. I 4bet push AK every once in awhile against a total donk or a seemingly solid aggressive player who is getting out of line and again I 4bet KK or AA when I can expect a call. Against an unknown Im more likely to do that simply because I dont know how bad they are and dont want it to be easy for them to get away from their hand.

Bleh, what do you actually beat here?

Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms

Hey buddy, You've been sitting at alot of my tables lately on crypto $25NL. And he has QsKs TP and a nut flush draw. That's all they seem to need on Crypto. How's my stats and game looking to you. If you even see with the amount of tables you play. It'd be nice to see myself throught the eyes of another goot player.

Haha thats you? Doh. I dont think we've played many pots together though, for some reason (but you're winning for now)...maybe its because you're such a nit:P From what I have you need to raise more pf, you're at 5-6% PFR which is low (700hands). Other than that you seem to be doing fine.

Players at Sun are fucking horrible, I love that place.

Hell ya on all counts. Working on it. They are so horrible they have fucked me up to the point of losing some big stacks at times.