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You call it a donk... donks are bad...

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    Default You call it a donk... donks are bad...

    Does that make it bad vicarously?

    PokerStars Game #17984059895: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/06/07 - 18:08:54 (ET)
    Table 'Telephus II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Ragnar4 ($11.60 in chips)
    Seat 2: Shishio13 ($9.05 in chips)
    Seat 3: jonigerard ($11.40 in chips)
    Seat 4: Iskeo ($10.60 in chips)
    Seat 5: vednozmagam ($14.65 in chips)
    Seat 6: supergoch ($7.15 in chips)
    Ragnar4: posts small blind $0.05
    Shishio13: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Ragnar4 [7s 9s]
    jonigerard: folds
    Iskeo: folds
    vednozmagam: folds
    supergoch: raises $0.30 to $0.40
    Ragnar4: calls $0.35
    Shishio13: folds
    *** FLOP *** [9d 4c 2d]
    Ragnar4: bets $0.70
    supergoch: folds
    Uncalled bet ($0.70) returned to Ragnar4
    Ragnar4 collected $0.90 from pot
    Ragnar4: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $0.90 | Rake $0
    Board [9d 4c 2d]
    Seat 1: Ragnar4 (small blind) collected ($0.90)
    Seat 2: Shishio13 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: jonigerard folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Iskeo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: vednozmagam folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: supergoch (button) folded on the Flop

    I called because I had a strong read. He'd raised every Button for 12 straight hands. The question, should I have cr'd here? or cc'd here? Why?
    The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes
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    Whats your plan if you get raised in this spot?
    I ask because I raise this donk bet on this type of board 100% of the time.
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    Also dont adjust to his blind steals by just calling more.
    Calling and taking a flop OOP against an aggressive player isn't much fun.

    3-bet more often and take the initiative away from him.
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    I figgured with a bad top pair it would be a fold unless the raise was fishy,

    PokerStars Game #17984274698: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/06/07 - 18:19:30 (ET)
    Table 'Telephus II' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Ragnar4 ($12.15 in chips)
    Seat 2: Shishio13 ($8.60 in chips)
    Seat 3: Thekuz17 ($2.85 in chips)
    Seat 4: Iskeo ($10.75 in chips)
    Seat 5: vednozmagam ($14.25 in chips)
    Seat 6: supergoch ($10.75 in chips)
    Ragnar4: posts small blind $0.05
    Shishio13: posts big blind $0.10
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Ragnar4 [Qh Th]
    Thekuz17: calls $0.10
    Iskeo: folds
    vednozmagam: folds
    supergoch: raises $0.40 to $0.50
    Ragnar4: calls $0.45
    Shishio13: calls $0.40
    Thekuz17: folds
    *** FLOP *** [4d Qc 2s]
    Ragnar4: bets $1.20
    Shishio13: folds
    supergoch: folds
    Uncalled bet ($1.20) returned to Ragnar4
    Ragnar4 collected $1.55 from pot
    Ragnar4: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $1.60 | Rake $0.05
    Board [4d Qc 2s]
    Seat 1: Ragnar4 (small blind) collected ($1.55)
    Seat 2: Shishio13 (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 3: Thekuz17 folded before Flop
    Seat 4: Iskeo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: vednozmagam folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: supergoch (button) folded on the Flop

    This hand on the other hand would be a call/evaluate.
    The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes
  5. #5
    I like a bi-polar range on my donks because you're going to get raised light quite a bit.
  6. #6
    bi-polar range? lol ive never heard that one before.

    i think u probly shouldnt try to adjust to anyone. just play a super straightforward game and dont concern yourself w/ how others are playing.

    also ... im not taking a shot at u .. but u r saying u have a strong read ... if u r still playing 10nl, your reads cant be that good. u should just focus on learning how to play abc and not out-think yourself. u might not like to hear it, but its so important to your development as a player, cuz i think u have potential. just gotta build the br to get past these games, so u can start applying these more advanced concepts that u obviously understand in a setting that actually will give u accurate feedback.
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    not at shot at all. I appreciate your input dude. =D

    But even a total noobtard recognizes 10 blindsteals in a row. I hope.

    As for not adjusting... Ok sounds like a plan. Straightforward abc it is.
    The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes
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    when i say dont adjust, what i really mean is, dont try to change your game based on what other people are doing ... adjsuting has a lot to do w/ figuring hand ranges and deceiving your opponents ... none of these tactics are necessary to beat these games. just build a bankroll by playing good cards in good position, then start to make these types of adjustments when u start to play higher stakes.

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