You can win more at $400 than $1000NL?

i found this is in a google search. is it correct?
http://www.pokertips.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43881

this is the important part of the post:

NL25: 5PTBB/100 or less 6-9PTBB/100; 10PTBB/100 or more (max at around 20)
NL50: 4PTBB/100 or less 5-8PTBB/100; 9PTBB/100 or more (max at around 16)
NL100: 3PTBB/100 or less 4-7PTBB/100; 8PTBB/100 or more (max at around 14)
NL200: 2PTBB/100 or less 3-5PTBB/100; 5PTBB/100 or more (max at around 10)
NL400: 1PTBB/100 or less 1-2PTBB/100; 3PTBB/100 or more (max at around 6)
NL1000: A rate of 1PTBB/100 is very very good. 2 is about the max possible. Some people claim more but thats usually unheard of.

if so, what is the point of moving from $400NL to $600NL to $1kNL?

2ptbb/100 hands at $1kNL is $40/100 hands.
6ptbb/100 hands at $400NL is $48/100 hands.

what's the point of moving up?
to improve your game so that you can win more in future when you play $2kNL and $5kNL?
or is this post inaccurate?

also, i'm running at 11.5ptbb/100 hands at $400NL over 13.5k hands. i probably couldn't keep winning at this rate, but i still feel my true winrate is over 6ptbb/100 hands at $400NL and i'm not even the best $400NL player at party.

This site is just stupid. I know someone who 12 tables 1k NL and has about a 2BB/100 winrate over a really large sample. With 4-tables i'm sure he could do at least 4. And i don't think he'd consider himself the best 1kNL player on stars, at all.

10ptbb at 25nl and 8 at 100nl are the same??? el oh el, el dee oh.

I wouldn't be surprised if zero 100nl regs could maintain 6ptbb. I'll be surprised if I do for 30k hands. And 25nl is waaaay easier.

plz plz plz tell me u arent that guy who x posted this all over 2p2 as well

Originally Posted by pokerroomace

also, i'm running at 11.5ptbb/100 hands at $400NL over 13.5k hands. i probably couldn't keep winning at this rate, but i still feel my true winrate is over 6ptbb/100 hands at $400NL and i'm not even the best $400NL player at party.

Reconsider after 100k more hands. I'm not saying it's impossible, there are people beating party 400NL for 8 ptbb/100 over 200k-ish samples, but you might wanna be prepared for it not to be so easy.

Edit: on-topic, I can definitely win more at $400 than $1k, my game doesn't seem good enough to beat 1k yet.

most player's hourly rate maxes out at 50nl, and for top players 100nl.

Most players' hourly rates are negative.

Originally Posted by HalvSame

Most players' hourly rates are negative.

am I getting leveled?

Originally Posted by EzDuzIt

Originally Posted by HalvSame

Most players' hourly rates are negative.

am I getting leveled?

no, most people who play poker have an hourly rate of losing money.

Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

Originally Posted by EzDuzIt

Originally Posted by HalvSame

Most players' hourly rates are negative.

am I getting leveled?

no, most people who play poker have an hourly rate of losing money.

lol, no. statistics show that 58% of people have a positive hourly rate.

I cna't see for the life of me how this can be right. I have 14,000 or so players in my PT database and 61% of them are losing players.

loloTrickedU had a hourly rate of over 2k 8-10 tabling Party 2kNLHE.

Originally Posted by Fnord

loloTrickedU had a hourly rate of over 2k 8-10 tabling Party 2kNLHE.

I'm betting Bldswttrs has an even bigger one.

Originally Posted by Ralph Wiggum

Me fail English? That's unpossible!

Originally Posted by biondino

I cna't see for the life of me how this can be right. I have 14,000 or so players in my PT database and 61% of them are losing players.

lol, are people still replying to me for real or am i just getting releveled or something. i cant tell anymore.

this is like the dumbest thread ever

Originally Posted by wufwugy

10ptbb at 25nl and 8 at 100nl are the same??? el oh el, el dee oh.

I wouldn't be surprised if zero 100nl regs could maintain 6ptbb. I'll be surprised if I do for 30k hands. And 25nl is waaaay easier.

you think?
i thought this guy was underestimating and you think he's overestimating?

plz plz plz tell me u arent that guy who x posted this all over 2p2 as well

sorry. but it was me. if it's any consolation i don't do it often. i posted it on ftr and then i thought there were way more $1kNL players on 2p2 so i posted it there.

this is like the dumbest thread ever

why? this is a crucial question. if the post is correct then i'd rather play $400NL than $1kNL!

the author of this was probably just pulling numbers out of his ass, and is clearly retarded.

but i would say 6ptbb or more is possible at 100nl. but players who are good enough arent staying there long or playing it anymore.

Originally Posted by pokerroomace

Originally Posted by wufwugy

10ptbb at 25nl and 8 at 100nl are the same??? el oh el, el dee oh.

I wouldn't be surprised if zero 100nl regs could maintain 6ptbb. I'll be surprised if I do for 30k hands. And 25nl is waaaay easier.

you think?
i thought this guy was underestimating and you think he's overestimating?

I'm always forgetting that shorthanded exists. I was referring to fullring exclusively. I'd consider myself the best 100NL FR reg if I could maintain 6ptbb.

But that's pointless to accomplish since I'll move up before that.

Originally Posted by wufwugy

Originally Posted by pokerroomace

Originally Posted by wufwugy

10ptbb at 25nl and 8 at 100nl are the same??? el oh el, el dee oh.

I wouldn't be surprised if zero 100nl regs could maintain 6ptbb. I'll be surprised if I do for 30k hands. And 25nl is waaaay easier.

you think?
i thought this guy was underestimating and you think he's overestimating?

I'm always forgetting that shorthanded exists. I was referring to fullring exclusively. I'd consider myself the best 100NL FR reg if I could maintain 6ptbb.

But that's pointless to accomplish since I'll move up before that.

yay wufwugy! Thank you for being a person who isnt delusional about winrates

if anyone believes the OP have any validity whatsoever they clearly dont have the logical reasoning skills to play past 400nl.

I run about 3ptbb/100 at 2/4 and I'm not very good.

Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan

yay wufwugy! Thank you for being a person who isnt delusional about winrates

Best winrate I've come across for the relatively recent 200nl fullring games was 2p2er Phresh's ~4.5ptbb for ~200k hands. Don't know his 2/4 3/6 fullring winrate is, but he's likely one of the best regs on Stars at those limits now.

I'm running at 7ptbb at 100nl fullring for 20k hands. WOOOO

i have empirical evidence that strongly suggests i can make more at 1k nl

Originally Posted by sauce123

i have empirical evidence that strongly suggests i can make more at 1k nl

thank you. that's the answer i was looking for.

btw. i just wana brag. i'm running at 12.5ptbb/100hands over 14.5k hands at $400NL Party.
i know i can't maintain that and have been on a massive rush.

i'm having another ago at $600NL now. way less tables to play at tho