Your play?

[spino1i]

Villain is known to bluff sometimes...

***** Hand History for Game 2240799024 *****
$200 NL Hold'em - Tuesday, June 21, 11:43:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 36731 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 4: midnite2345 ( $234.3 )
Seat 5: frekameku ( $251.25 )
Seat 6: blufferqueen ( $265.9 )
Seat 7: OldMoe ( $200.7 )
Seat 8: buddy813 ( $218.85 )
Seat 9: Kingfish__ ( $157 )
Seat 10: kajjan111 ( $216.4 )
Seat 1: fancy_1 ( $225 )
Seat 2: innitm8 ( $192 )
Seat 3: Blacktop222 ( $200.75 )
OldMoe posts small blind [$1].
buddy813 posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Kingfish__ [ Kh Qh ]
Kingfish__ raises [$4].
kajjan111 folds.
fancy_1 folds.
innitm8 folds.
>You have options at Table 41397 Table!.
>You have options at Table 48858 Table!.
Blacktop222 folds.
midnite2345 folds.
blufferqueen folds.
OldMoe calls [$3].
buddy813 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, Js, 4d ]
OldMoe bets [$5].
Kingfish__ calls [$5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qc ]
OldMoe bets [$12].
Kingfish__ raises [$24].
OldMoe raises [$36].
>You have options at Table 41397 Table!.
Kingfish__ ???

[DimitriT]

That's a good size bet on the turn he put in. Not sure I would hang on here with just TPGK. I don't know what to put him on but KT? JQ? AQ? Is he slowplaying AA or KK?

So many ways to get beat here. I would fold on the turn bet.

[drmcboy]

Yeah unless you've seen min making bizarre re bluffs I can't see what you beat here. Q10 J10?

[allLiving]

He easily has QJ. Fold. Also, don't raise UTG KQs, looks bad.

[spino1i]

Also, don't raise UTG KQs, looks bad.

So limp instead? Then im stuck in a pot with 5/6 people and worse position, kinda sucks

[drmcboy]

KQs = draw hand, mutliple opps in draw hand pot is good. I think it's limp/fold, not limp/raise.

[journey075]

KQs can be raised from all positions...just be iffy if you hit a Q since AQ can call behind.

[a500lbgorilla]

HAHAHA!

Hand histories look so funny at these stakes. I forgot the only raises ops do are min-raises or AIs. EDIT-- I thought this was at a smaller stake. Still, min raises are funny.

Clear fold. Unless there are odds somewhere to call. I didn't look at it very hard.

-'rilla

[storm75m]

Villain is known to bluff sometimes...

That min re-raise looks too much like a "my dick is bigger than yours" raise, fuck that, i say call and see what he does on the river.

[spino1i]

KQs = draw hand, mutliple opps in draw hand pot is good. I think it's limp/fold, not limp/raise.

Just because its techinically a connected suitor does not make it a drawing hand.. its mostly power, a little draw..

[dsaxton]

Raising with a dominated hand out of position is usually a pretty bad idea.

When I'm in first position at a full cash game table, the only unpaired hand I'll raise for value is A-K.

[BobbySalami]

Raising with a dominated hand out of position is usually a pretty bad idea.

When I'm in first position at a full cash game table, the only unpaired hand I'll raise for value is A-K.

Quoted for pure truth

[journey075]

Raising with a dominated hand out of position is usually a pretty bad idea.

When I'm in first position at a full cash game table, the only unpaired hand I'll raise for value is A-K.

you want to take control of pots and make others feel like they are drawing. it doesnt matter too much what you actually hold. thats the point of aggression.

[BobbySalami]

Raising with a dominated hand out of position is usually a pretty bad idea.

When I'm in first position at a full cash game table, the only unpaired hand I'll raise for value is A-K.

you want to take control of pots and make others feel like they are drawing. it doesnt matter too much what you actually hold. thats the point of aggression.

As in this example it could possibly be crossing the line into Laggy play...you dont want to be so aggressive that you are just firing away when you are flat out dominated....I wouldn't be too fond of my hand after his re-raise....albeit weak, I think it is begging for trouble.

I like the minraise in the limits I play when I have a big hand because it begs to have someone come over the top in a pissing match.......

[dsaxton]

Raising with a dominated hand out of position is usually a pretty bad idea.

When I'm in first position at a full cash game table, the only unpaired hand I'll raise for value is A-K.

you want to take control of pots and make others feel like they are drawing. it doesnt matter too much what you actually hold. thats the point of aggression.

When the flop comes K, x, x, does it still not matter what you're holding?

[journey075]

you have to use your own judgement to whether or not youre ahead. poker isnt about simple decisions always. bet out and take it from there.

[DoGGz]

Here on some thoughts.

You need your own playstyle. If you are playing LAGG, I raise this Pre-flop.

If you are playing TAGG, I would limp.

Table image is so important.

[drmcboy]

I stand by:

KQs = draw hand.

You are not looking to flop top pair here. The proof is in the pudding... look at the trouble you got into here, and you hit TP. Either you hit top pair with other broadway cards and as happened here you get scared of two pr/str8, or you hit top pair with rags and the only peolpe staying with you have you beat. If the board comes Q82r, are you really making money off someone calling you down with QJ?