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  1. #1

    Default preflop betting

    Tonight, playing $10 NL on pacificc

    i was playing tired, i played for a while and could tell i was making some bad moves, so i left and bought into another table with only my tonights profit, so as to not go down for the day if i make an awful call.

    position: 2nd last to act, would i say Button-1?
    Dealt hole cards:


    theres a limper, then it folds around to the guy before me. he raises to 7BB.

    at a different site i'd usually put a player on a high pp from that but here i'd say AJ or possibly something weaker, seeing as i'm playing with profit instead of raising for info i just push, figuring i'm playing with profit and i'm fairly sure he'll be the only guy to call me if he does call.

    It folds to him, he thinks for a long time then calls, so i'm now putting him on AK, AQ and feeling pretty confident.

    ace on the flop.. damn.. he turned over K7 and i took it down

    so the question is as to how you play KK preflop..

    raise obviously almost all the time, but what if theres a decent raise before you, do you reraise or push, if he reraises your raise do you fold to aces pressure?

    if he raises, i reraise, he reraises all in, i'm usually going to fold.. unless i know the player well enough that i can put him on AK, JJ, QQ,

    so i think my actual question is.. in general, with out a strong read on someone for AA, do you want to get All in preflop with KK?

    i try to put it into a bunch of situations:

    general rule, stack size 60-80 BB
    Q1
    I raise to 5-6BB get reraised to 20-30BB
    push or call or fold?

    Q2
    he bets 10BB
    raise push or call?

    Q3
    he bets 3-4 BB, i reraise to 12-15BB, he raises All-In
    call or fold?

    Q4
    i raise to 4-5BB, he reraise to 9-10BB
    reraise, call, push or fold?

    thanks in anticipation..
    villain goes AI
    i call with a set (i have him owned)
    i win pot
    villain: **** this, this site is bullshit, ******* rigged, suck out ****
  2. #2
    Putting someone on AA is usually the hardest thing to do. You can almost never guarentee someone has AA, as most poker players will push all in with the likes of QQ or AK. If someone reraises me with KK, I'm going to push all in 99 times out of 100. For instance, today at a house game, the tightest player on earth reraised 9 dollars over my 4 dollar raise ( I had KK). After a little thinking, I was pretty much sure he had AA as he knows I dont raise without a good hand also. I saw a flop, which brought no ace or king, and I folded to his all in. The thing is, I would VERY rarely fold KK preflop. If someone pushes over the top of you I guess you could slow down and see a flop, but I dont reccomend it.
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  3. #3
    I have no problem putting it all on the line with KK if I have to. It just doesn't crash with AA often enough to worry about it.

    Preflop, I don't provoke a pissing contest by reraising a significant raise before me, if I feel I have already achieved reasonable isolation without it. I don't think group 0 hands need to be hammered down an opponents throat preflop with big re-raises every time you get them. It's just bad business if you play it that way every time. I'm not saying you do, I'm just saying I don't.

    In this case I think you should have just called his raise, and taken it from there. be happy with isolation, and gather info on the flop.
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