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  1. #1

    Default Is this a fold?

    ***** Hand History for Game 2246391433 *****
    $100 NL Hold'em - Wednesday, June 22, 14:52:39 EDT 2005
    Table Table 36690 (6 max) (Real Money)
    Seat 1 is the button
    Total number of players : 5
    Seat 1: DayDeLay ( $188.2 )
    Seat 2: pppmaster ( $100 )
    Seat 3: corkycosmo ( $149.95 )
    Seat 4: SmackinYaUp ( $98.05 )
    Seat 6: dunderjojo ( $111.15 )
    pppmaster posts small blind [$0.5].
    SmackinYaUp posts big blind [$1].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to SmackinYaUp [ Qd Kd ]
    dunderjojo folds.
    DayDeLay calls [$1].
    pppmaster calls [$0.5].
    SmackinYaUp raises [$3].
    DayDeLay calls [$3].
    pppmaster calls [$3].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 7s, 4d ]
    pppmaster checks.
    SmackinYaUp bets [$8].
    DayDeLay folds.
    pppmaster calls [$8].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
    pppmaster checks.
    SmackinYaUp bets [$14].
    pppmaster raises [$28].

    What do you do here? I thought about pushing, but he looked pretty attached to his hand and I only had one card to hit my gutshot flush and I doubted that my overcards would save me unless he was betting the jack that hard.



    ***** Hand History for Game 2247035335 *****
    $100 NL Hold'em - Wednesday, June 22, 17:39:27 EDT 2005
    Table Table 36929 (6 max) (Real Money)
    Seat 5 is the button
    Total number of players : 6
    Seat 1: nutzinPA ( $110.45 )
    Seat 2: lexmark888 ( $24.86 )
    Seat 3: SmackinYaUp ( $95.8 )
    Seat 4: evilest ( $83.15 )
    Seat 5: Race7727 ( $188.12 )
    Seat 6: h0ck27 ( $106.3 )
    h0ck27 posts small blind [$0.5].
    nutzinPA posts big blind [$1].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to SmackinYaUp [ Qs Qh ]
    lexmark888 folds.
    SmackinYaUp raises [$4].
    evilest calls [$4].
    Race7727 folds.
    h0ck27 folds.
    nutzinPA calls [$3].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ Ah, Qd, 3c ]
    nutzinPA checks.
    SmackinYaUp checks.
    evilest checks.
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
    nutzinPA checks.
    SmackinYaUp bets [$7].
    evilest folds.
    nutzinPA raises [$14].
    SmackinYaUp calls [$7].
    ** Dealing River ** [ 7c ]
    nutzinPA bets [$45]

    I checked the flop because the guy to my left was a real idiot and liked to randomly push allin if everybody checked to him. The turn brought a scare card and I suspected KJ but it was hard tellin. What do you do here? No reads.
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  2. #2
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    Both of these hands are tough, looks like a 50/50 chance either way it goes...

    First hand, looks like a call to me. Calling another $14 into a $68 pot with a gutshot, flush, and overs doesn't seem so bad, looks like your getting the odds to me. (Although I'm sure some of your outs are tainted...) I bet he is betting the jack that hard, or a large pocket pair, and probably puts you on AK or something that missed... (Also looks like you both may be after the same flush, and he's holding the jack)

    Second hand, a real tough one, he definetly has 2 pair or better, I can see him playing pocket tens this way, or A10, even AA, AQ, or KJ, or AK... You have most of those hands beat, I would call, close my eyes and hope for the best.
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  3. #3
    I fucking hate playing against shortstacks. What about this hand? Easy fold?


    ***** Hand History for Game 2247475120 *****
    $100 NL Hold'em - Wednesday, June 22, 19:14:55 EDT 2005
    Table Table 37103 (6 max) (Real Money)
    Seat 2 is the button
    Total number of players : 6
    Seat 1: ramyaj ( $46.37 )
    Seat 2: SmackinYaUp ( $145.72 )
    Seat 6: Dore24 ( $43.5 )
    Seat 3: probace ( $141.9 )
    Seat 4: ccashdollar ( $81 )
    Seat 5: sabreman ( $99 )
    probace posts small blind [$0.5].
    ccashdollar posts big blind [$1].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to SmackinYaUp [ 9h Ah ]
    sabreman folds.
    Dore24 folds.
    ramyaj calls [$1].
    SmackinYaUp raises [$4].
    probace folds.
    ccashdollar calls [$3].
    ramyaj calls [$3].
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 5c, 8h ]
    ccashdollar checks.
    ramyaj checks.
    SmackinYaUp bets [$7].
    ccashdollar folds.
    ramyaj calls [$7].
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ Qh ]
    ramyaj checks.
    SmackinYaUp bets [$16].
    ramyaj is all-In [$35.37]
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  4. #4
    I call the first hand pretty quick, you are almost getting direct pot odds for the call, with the chance of great implied odds on a fairly well disguised hand.

    The second hand i probably crying call, and i don't really see how you can fold.

    The last hand you pretty much have to fold, he is check raising over the top of you without much of a stack behind him. I don't think he necessarily has a queen but it definately could be a slowplay of a set, straight or even two pair.
  5. #5
    It looks a lot to me like TJ, 9Q, or a set on the last hand. My natural suspicion is TJ. I'd fold there, but if he had about $10 less I think you have to call.
  6. #6
    On the first hand, I flat called and hit the flush and felt like a noob sucking out on his made straight.

    The 2nd hand I called the river and lost to the straight.

    The third hand I reluctantly folded.


    Good to know we think alike.
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    He who sleeps well cannot sin.
    He who does not sin goes to Heaven.
  7. #7
    In shorthanded games I find it is useful to overbet the pot with flopped two pairs, or A9 on 98x board. It looks like a steal and most the time gets an AI or raise which you usually have beat. I call with the nut flush draw and decent pair top kicker with the A9s hand.

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