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  1. #1

    Default People overbetting the river.

    After i folded he said good laydown, i missed my flushdraw... but didnt show so I have no reason to beleive him. This guy is a preety good player, on average I see him up ~at least 1 rebuy but most of his hands rarley reach showdown :/ My table image is tight-aggresive, so he must have had at least a general idea of what i had.

    PokerStars Game #2160401502: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/07/22 - 11:55:56 (ET)
    Table 'Ampella II' Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 2: Fabux ($66.10 in chips)
    Seat 3: scCobra ($20.35 in chips)
    Seat 4: Sharkky1 ($27.50 in chips)
    Seat 5: ToredLonew ($55.05 in chips)
    Seat 6: Jon Oats ($26.75 in chips)
    Seat 7: Unrelenting ($64.20 in chips)
    Seat 8: palicante ($96.10 in chips)
    Seat 9: netjunkie ($10.25 in chips)
    palicante: posts small blind $0.25
    netjunkie: posts big blind $0.50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Unrelenting [Ac Ks]
    Fabux: calls $0.50
    scCobra: folds
    Sharkky1: calls $0.50
    ToredLonew: folds
    Jon Oats: folds
    Unrelenting: raises $2 to $2.50
    palicante: folds
    netjunkie: calls $2
    Fabux: calls $2
    Sharkky1: calls $2
    *** FLOP *** [As 3c 6s]
    netjunkie: checks
    Fabux: checks
    Sharkky1: checks
    Unrelenting: bets $5
    netjunkie: folds
    Fabux: calls $5
    Sharkky1: folds
    *** TURN *** [As 3c 6s] [6d]
    Fabux: checks
    Unrelenting: bets $9.50
    Fabux: raises $9.50 to $19
    Unrelenting: calls $9.50
    *** RIVER *** [As 3c 6s 6d] [9h]
    Fabux: bets $25
    Unrelenting: folds
    Gimmeahh has returned
    Fabux collected $55.40 from pot
    Fabux: doesn't show hand
    Unrelenting said, "gosh"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $58.25 | Rake $2.85
    Board [As 3c 6s 6d 9h]
    Seat 2: Fabux collected ($55.40)
    Seat 3: scCobra folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Sharkky1 folded on the Flop
    Seat 5: ToredLonew folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Jon Oats folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Unrelenting (button) folded on the River
    Seat 8: palicante (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: netjunkie (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Tom.S
  2. #2
    The only hands you could give him credit for right there are 66, 33 or A6. That's a pretty big PFR for AK, its sort of puts you in a situation (with 3 opps.) where you need to bet more on the flop and turn. Against LAGs I would raise less there since you are getting called anyway. I would have made it $1.50 to go.

    I'm not sure about the raise on the turn. I'm guessing you put him on a flush draw so when he raises you there I would have to reevaluate. You don't want to call that unless you are ready to go all-in on the river - in that case, you are better off pushing right there rather than calling since the river is most likely to not benefit you. For me that's a push/fold situation. With just your TP, I would fold it but since the only hand I could put him on is 33 I may push if I had a read.
  3. #3
    DoGGz Guest
    Just so you know, he never overbet at all. His river bet isn't even the size of the pot. An 'overbet' is a bet larger then the pot.
  4. #4
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    He's come right to life on the turn here, that screams a X6, or he might even be starting to make a move with a flopped set with 33.

    I like your river fold, you are beat here most times.
  5. #5
    busted flush, almost positive
  6. #6
    Yeah, his bet seems too big for a hand he thinks is best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bair
    busted flush, almost positive
    Yep looks like that.
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    his bet is less than half the pot. pot is 60, what would an appropriate value bet be? seems to me if he wanted to bluff he would've just pushed, he barely had anything more than the 25 left.
  9. #9
    When there's betting the whole way through I usually go for 1/4 of the pot or the last bet from the turn. The min-raise on the turn would have set alarm bells off in the majority of players though, so I don't know if another small bet would do it on the river.

    I'd say either $10 or rep the bluff and push. I'm leaning towards pushing.

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