bad call?

[bigredhoss]

PokerStars Game #2445302858: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/08/28 - 19:15:18 (ET)
Table 'Althaea III' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: thump955 ($10.60 in chips)
Seat 2: moxfox ($34.25 in chips)
Seat 3: dasf44 ($11.05 in chips)
Seat 4: bigredhoss ($66.50 in chips)
Seat 5: lucky doll ($16.25 in chips)
Seat 6: SnakeFortune ($44.95 in chips)
Seat 7: marcsavard27 ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 8: WonLastTime ($11.10 in chips)
Seat 9: Inge Rik ($48.30 in chips)
thump955: posts small blind $0.25
moxfox: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bigredhoss [Ks Kd]
dasf44: raises $0.50 to $1
bigredhoss: raises $1.50 to $2.50
lucky doll: folds
SnakeFortune: folds
marcsavard27: folds
WonLastTime: calls $2.50
Inge Rik: folds
thump955: folds
moxfox: calls $2
dasf44: raises $8.55 to $11.05 and is all-in
bigredhoss: calls $8.55
WonLastTime: calls $8.55
moxfox: calls $8.55
*** FLOP *** [8s 8c 3d]
moxfox: bets $23.20 and is all-in
bigredhoss: calls $23.20
WonLastTime: calls $0.05 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [8s 8c 3d] [Qc]
*** RIVER *** [8s 8c 3d Qc] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
moxfox: shows [3s 3h] (a full house, Threes full of Eights)
bigredhoss: shows [Ks Kd] (a full house, Kings full of Eights)

yes i know i made a big suckout...

my question is do you call that flop bet? I didn't think he would be ahead of me there with anything but AA.

[Greedo017]

you were +EV to call any flop: you didn't suck out on him. you were pot committed on the flop, his preflop call was pathetic, he sucked out on you, you just sucked back.

[Rondavu]

you were +EV to call any flop: you didn't suck out on him. you were pot committed on the flop, his preflop call was pathetic, he sucked out on you, you just sucked back.

I think he should have reraised all in on the flop to push the others out. You don't want a family pot with a high pocket. It may be +EV to smooth call, but it's better +EV to raise all in and not get greedy.

As for the call with 33, it was bad, but it wasn't totally horrible. He was last act, there was $33 dollars in the pot already, and the original preflop raiser had a high stack to pay the person holding 33 who had a pretty high stack himself. He was thinking the implied odds were there, though he was stretching the concept a bit. This is exactly the reason you isolate your KK however. Smart players take advantage of odds, and they get better and better with each passing smooth caller.

[bigredhoss]

well the guy who was allin pf had AA so i sucked out either way lol