JJ push to big aggression

[BIGandRICH]

POKERSTARS GAME #2464741534: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/08/31 - 08:10:12 (ET)
Table 'Aludra' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: WEGGIE ($3.05 in chips)
Seat 2: glittergulch ($17.15 in chips)
Seat 3: mezigue ($30.75 in chips)
Seat 4: maverick824 ($47.80 in chips)
Seat 5: M104 ($23.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Scott Owen ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 7: aligned1 ($16.20 in chips)
Seat 8: Viper2025 ($11 in chips)
glittergulch: posts small blind $0.10
mezigue: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scott Owen [:Jd: :Js:]
maverick824: folds
M104: folds
Scott Owen: calls $0.25
aligned1: calls $0.25
Viper2025: folds
WEGGIE: folds
glittergulch: raises $1.25 to $1.50
mezigue: folds
Scott Owen: calls $1.25
aligned1: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
glittergulch: bets $3.25
Scott Owen: raises $20.15 to $23.40 and is all-in
glittergulch: folds
Scott Owen collected $9.55 from pot
Scott Owen: shows [Jd Js] (a pair of Jacks)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10 | Rake $0.45
Board [2c 6h 7s]
Seat 1: WEGGIE (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: glittergulch (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: mezigue (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: maverick824 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: M104 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Scott Owen collected ($9.55)
Seat 7: aligned1 folded before Flop
Seat 8: Viper2025 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

He raises to 6BB preflop, and i would normally fold JJ to that, because it says BIG PP.. but the villain has raised this much or more preflop about 6 times in the last 10 mins and i have previously seen him drastically overvalue low pairs and As or Ks. So i see the flop, rather than raising him because i didnt feel like getting AI on a coinflip with AK. He pot bets the rag flop so my immediate thoughts are un improved AK/AQ or pp, no set because i think he would slow down. so i push. good idea? i figure bett to take it there where theres to many scare cards coming if i smooth call or raise and get called. Is a smaller raise better in this situation though, say to $10-12? to get the same effect but risk less incase i've read wrong and he is setting me.

mm.. i showed it.. not sure why, so is there any reason i should or shouldnt have shown? I have only been at the table 15 mins, so i havent got much of an image developed yet.

[BobbySalami]

Well, I have actually played with glittergulch a lot on the 0.05/0.10 tables and from what I read is that he is very very tight and usually has a hand when he bets......but maybe hes different on the $25 NL....but I think a reraise to ~$9 would get him to fold or tell you if your beat....no reason to put all your chips in.

Also, dont show....your telling people that you limp/call jacks which is given out good info for free....don show

[BIGandRICH]

Well, I have actually played with glittergulch a lot on the 0.05/0.10 tables and from what I read is that he is very very tight and usually has a hand when he bets......but maybe hes different on the $25 NL....but I think a reraise to ~$9 would get him to fold or tell you if your beat....no reason to put all your chips in.

mm.. i rarely see him raise less than 6-7BB preflop.. and i'd put him as a less crazy maniac.. I havent seen a huge amount though.. i've sat with him 3 times i think.. so maybe he was tilted or having an agressive moment.. thanks for the info on him though, i shall take it into consideration next time i see him.

[BobbySalami]

One time I sat with him for 1:30 and did not raise a single hand...maybe limped a few...but then I got TT's and he raised to like 9xBB....that was autofold for me.

[DimitriT]

Sure he may be stealing there but do you really want to risk your whole stack to find out? There is no need to overbet here. Raising him to $8 would achieve the same result if he is stealing. Smooth calling and raising the turn is also a good play.

[ejdewey]

I've played this guy a few times and he is generally pretty tight, but if he puts you on a hand similar to his he will pull a pot steal (CO is glittergulch):

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($24.70)
BB ($78.85)
Hero ($7.45)
UTG+1 ($14.40)
MP1 ($23.95)
MP2 ($6.40)
MP3 ($16.15)
CO ($42.30)
Button ($10.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, A.
Hero raises to $0.5, 4 folds, CO raises to $1.5, 3 folds, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($3.35) J, 3, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, CO raises to $40.8, Hero calls $3.95 (All-In).

Turn: ($50.10) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($50.10) T (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $50.10

Results in white below:
Hero has Kc Ad (one pair, kings).
CO has As 8s (high card, ace).
Outcome: CO wins $34.85. Hero wins $15.25.

I think he pegged my weak lead pre-flop as Ax, which is what I wanted, this table was so tight that any reasonable action pre-flop would clear the table. Even this bet scared most off...