read me.. i'm worth $39.10

[BIGandRICH]

POKERSTARS GAME #2518419508: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/09/07 - 03:51:19 (ET)
Table 'Moultona' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: Scott Owen ($41.25 in chips)
Seat 3: cmhsoccer14 ($25.65 in chips)
Seat 5: elbundito ($22.45 in chips)
Seat 9: Marc Aurel M ($5.20 in chips)
Marc Aurel M: posts small blind $0.10
Scott Owen: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Scott Owen [:Ad: :Qc:]
cmhsoccer14: folds
elbundito: calls $0.25
Marc Aurel M: folds
Scott Owen: raises $1 to $1.25
elbundito: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [:Qd: :Td: ]
Scott Owen: bets $1.75
elbundito: calls $1.75
*** TURN *** [:Qd: :Td: ] []
Scott Owen: bets $5.50
elbundito: calls $5.50
*** RIVER *** [:Qd: :Td: ] [:Ah:]
Scott Owen: bets $6
elbundito: raises $6 to $12
Scott Owen said, "hmmm.."

results in white below
Scott Owen: calls $6
*** SHOW DOWN ***
elbundito: shows [5c Qh] (a pair of Queens)
Scott Owen: shows [Ad Qc] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
Scott Owen collected $39.10 from pot

so guys.. what does he have? and dont just go and read the results rilla you cheating monkey. At this point I thought the guy was semi intelligent.

[lowBoy]

Sounds like he's got the flush, or is an idiot who thinks his ace just became good. You've gotta call that I think.

Huh... didn't expect that result.

[Rondavu]

Without looking I'm going to guess he has a straight. He has a good read on you and decided to value bet it.

LMAO. I just looked. Unreal.

[Age of Reason]

Seemed like he was on a draw to me.

His raise at the end was pretty weak. But I guess because he didn't have much money at the time. I definitely would've called. You can sense the weakness.

[BIGandRICH]

yeh, i thought i was beat.. but i also thought that at 25NL often enough i'm not beat that it was worth calling.. i mean, it was $6 into $33.. roughly.. so he only has to be stupid 1 in 5 times.. which is likely at this stakes..

Edit: the other thought i had was that, a flush or straight wouldve raised me on the turn.. because the A of diamonds was drawing

[Rondavu]

yeh, i thought i was beat.. but i also thought that at 25NL often enough i'm not beat that it was worth calling.. i mean, it was $6 into $33.. roughly.. so he only has to be stupid 1 in 5 times.. which is likely at this stakes..

Edit: the other thought i had was that, a flush or straight wouldve raised me on the turn.. because the A of diamonds was drawing

Sometimes i just want to say that before I call a raise in the chat...

"There's a very good chance you're stupid"

As for the straight raising you on the turn, I was assuming he made the straight on the river. Late Aces and Nines are straight makers.

[Zangief]

As for the straight raising you on the turn, I was assuming he made the straight on the river. Late Aces and Nines are straight makers.

Nah, K or 8 makes a straight for a lone J. A only makes a bigger straight for KJ, which is already a straight. 9 is already on the board.

[PokerPatNEU]

Side question: If he pushed the river would you have still called?

[BIGandRICH]

Side question: If he pushed the river would you have still called?

for the whole $1.95 difference a push wouldve made.. yeh i think so. I'd still be getting pretty good odds on stupidity

[PokerPatNEU]

Sigh i never look at stack sizes i always am thinking people just have 1 buy in for whatever the stakes What if the stacks were deeper? Say another 12$?

[BIGandRICH]

Sigh i never look at stack sizes i always am thinking people just have 1 buy in for whatever the stakes What if the stacks were deeper? Say another 12$?

i probably wouldve thought for twice as long then folded, because i dont know the guy at all, and i would then not be getting odds on stupidity.

Also a larger push there would look to me much more like a straight..
He knows i dont have a flush, and is trying to represent a bluff to get me to call with my 2 pair.. but then again, that would probably be giving him way to much credit for intelligence... but ofcourse i didnt know how stupid he was until the hand was over.

or he was hanging back on a flush and is doing the same thing.. either way i'm beat..

he might also have Q5 ofcourse..

So many things change though if he was to be deepstacked.. because the way that table came about it just wouldnt have had another deepstack.. It started with just me and cmhsoccer heads up.. and there was no point to that because we were both decent players and though i was sure i could beat him over time it just wasnt worth it, so we just messed around for a while before all the other guys came in... at which point we laughed at them and started completely dominating the table.. no one at the table had seen past the flop until this hand because I, and sometimes cmh, had just pushed them around to the extreme.. Once you add that to the equation the guy might have just been getting frustrated and trying to push me back on whatever he had at the time.

So images and things wouldve been alot different if he was deepstacked