what do you kids do here?

[Trikflow77]

No reads, very early...... i know what to do here....what do you do and why?


#Game No : 3015843133
***** Hand History for Game 3015843133 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:17305158 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Thursday, November 10, 20:14:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 67535 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: trikflow( $775 )
Seat 2: yapak33 ( $775 )
Seat 3: eschnur ( $930 )
Seat 4: JMAN2726 ( $680 )
Seat 5: Maccent ( $770 )
Seat 6: pocket5s555 ( $570 )
Seat 7: silkysoup ( $1175 )
Seat 8: BigSlick0120 ( $595 )
Seat 9: T_O_C_405 ( $730 )
Seat 10: Mr_Dinky ( $1000 )
Trny:17305158 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to trikflow [ 7d 7c ]
T_O_C_405 folds.
Mr_Dinky folds.
trikflow calls [15].
yapak33 folds.
eschnur folds.
JMAN2726 calls [15].
Maccent folds.
pocket5s555 calls [15].
>You have options at Table 68111 Table!.
silkysoup calls [5].
BigSlick0120 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2h, 4c, 5c ]
silkysoup checks.
BigSlick0120 bets [150].
>You have options at Table 68238 Table!.
trikflow???????

[nogenius]

I probably fold because the pot is so small and I have so little invested in it.

Plus the bettor is BB which means he could have virtually anything.

[Fortune 500]

You're ahead here... opponent has some goofy Ax straight draw...

That said, I probably fold because it's so early, and I can find a better spot.

[Trikflow77]

You're ahead here... opponent has some goofy Ax straight draw...

That said, I probably fold because it's so early, and I can find a better spot.

U think your ahead but you fold? So you think this bet size means draw or small pair with draw?

[Demiparadigm]

I don't limp preflop.
I put him all in on the flop.

[a500lbgorilla]

I always limp preflop.
I fold the flop.

-'rilla

[Trikflow77]

I don't limp preflop.
I put him all in on the flop.

why and why?

[Trikflow77]

I always limp preflop.
I fold the flop.

-'rilla

why 2 the second question.

[Fortune 500]

You're ahead here... opponent has some goofy Ax straight draw...

That said, I probably fold because it's so early, and I can find a better spot.

U think your ahead but you fold? So you think this bet size means draw or small pair with draw?

I read him for like an A5, somewhere in that range... but I'm really guessing. I don't like to guess. I've got nothing significant in the pot. A set or even a crazy made straight or goofy two pair beat me. Geven that there was no preflop aggression and I can't eliminate any hands, I fold what I'm like 60 percent sure is the best hand, and wait for a more certain spot. No need to get broke with a baby overpair here.

[aislephive]

I fold here because you don't have many chips into the pot, plus it's early.

[a500lbgorilla]

I always limp preflop.
I fold the flop.

-'rilla

why 2 the second question.

Always ask the question, becuase then you look smarter when you don't know.

You've invested nothing into a tiny pot. His hand range is mostly over cards + flush draw or deuces + flush draw. I just don't think you'll play well agains t stuff like QJcc, A2cc, pairs 99 and below. And becuase deep down inside, I don't like to gamble this early. I could take exception if I believed my bubble play won't do enough to beat a table like this one.

-'rilla

[Trikflow77]

I always limp preflop.
I fold the flop.

-'rilla

why 2 the second question.

Always ask the question, becuase then you look smarter when you don't know.

You've invested nothing into a tiny pot. His hand range is mostly over cards + flush draw or deuces + flush draw. I just don't think you'll play well agains t stuff like QJcc, A2cc, pairs 99 and below. And becuase deep down inside, I don't like to gamble this early. I could take exception if I didn't believe my bubble play won't do enough to beat a table like this one.

-'rilla

No, i know what to do here every time. I think u guys r a little off base though. Why would someone ovebet a pot like this with 4 other players yet 2 act. If this pot was 2-3 handed i could see what you are saying about having the best hand. here, 75% of the time you are beat. The other 25%, it is a donk bet. No one mentioned the amount of people in the pot, which i think is a driving factor in this bet.

And by the way...he had 63 for a straight.........

[Demiparadigm]

You think that an overbet means you are beat 75% of the time?
Why would the nuts ever want to overbet here?

[Trikflow77]

You think that an overbet means you are beat 75% of the time?
Why would the nuts ever want to overbet here?

4 opponents, flush draw, 67 is also open ended....... and yes, in this case I think that bet means i am beat 75% of the time.

Wasnt your advise to raise preflop and reraise this bet???????????

i think both r wrong in this case.

[RangerX]

You think that an overbet means you are beat 75% of the time?
Why would the nuts ever want to overbet here?

4 opponents, flush draw, 67 is also open ended....... and yes, in this case I think that bet means i am beat 75% of the time.

Wasnt your advise to raise preflop and reraise this bet???????????

i think both r wrong in this case.

Easy to say when you saw the hand play out.

Yet, since he is the BB and there is 120 in that pot and it is a 1.25x the pot bet, it'd be easy for me to let this hand go. I don't understand the limp preflop though. Chances are you would've been good if you had gotten the BB to fold.

[Trikflow77]

i dont raise 77 early on in a sng at least not in a 33.........

Ive seen this bet enough times to know what it means....thats why i posted it.....

[aislephive]

I don't blame the limp at all, I tend to limp TT and lower if there are already a lot of limpers in the pot. I'll raise if it's folded to me, but I play cautiously early.

I assume you got all your money in Trik? Unless you folded and he showed his straight ..

[MAX]

I can't believe anyone here is really calling this. You are behind to a flush draw w/overs!! You are behind to so many limped hands that it is silly to call.

"Never go broke in an unraised pot" <- or something like that

How about this, what do you need to make this call?

[PokerPatNEU]

How about this, what do you need to make this call?

Exactly what i was thinking when i first looked at the flop. Even assuming i had AA and misclicked call instead of raise pre flop, i still think i'm folding here just because there is zero point in gambling. I want a set or 6c7c, or the made junk strait. If you are ahead in this hand, villain is a dumby who will be giving you his stack soon anyway. Good fold Trik.

[Aces]

Nice exercise trik. Keep 'em comin.

I was voting easy fold even before I read the rest of the thread for mostly the same reasons given.