QQ

[johnny_fish]

** Game ID 600323247 starting - 2005-12-04 18:02:39
** Bad Beat Table 2 [Hold 'em] (0.50|1.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- johnny291281 sitting in seat 1 with $129.15 [Dealer]
- Dannesan sitting in seat 2 with $97.00
- MCA69 sitting in seat 3 with $17.15
- mr_kjeks sitting in seat 4 with $201.50
- UAW420rook sitting in seat 5 with $7.85
- MrBlonde70 sitting in seat 6 with $94.50
- leroybrown28 sitting in seat 7 with $49.38
- vitanga sitting in seat 8 with $31.42
- Hassy sitting in seat 9 with $99.00 [Sitting out]
- redsoxgal04 sitting in seat 10 with $12.48

Dannesan posted the small blind - $0.50
MCA69 posted the big blind - $1.00

** Dealing card to johnny291281: Queen of Hearts, Queen of Clubs

mr_kjeks called - $1.00
UAW420rook folded
MrBlonde70 folded
leroybrown28 folded
vitanga called - $1.00
redsoxgal04 folded
johnny291281 raised - $5.00
Dannesan folded
MCA69 folded
mr_kjeks called - $5.00
vitanga called - $5.00

** Dealing the flop: 2 of Clubs, 5 of Spades, 3 of Hearts

mr_kjeks bet - $20.00 strange.. Overpair or set..
vitanga called - $20.00 short stack, I don't care
johnny291281 raised - $60.00 can't fold this, need info
mr_kjeks called - $60.00 I'm beat, set
vitanga went all-in - $6.42

** Dealing the turn: 10 of Clubs

mr_kjeks checked
johnny291281 checked No check-raise of me

** Dealing the river: Jack of Clubs

mr_kjeks checked ?? Do I have the best hand?
johnny291281 went all-in - $64.15
mr_kjeks called - $64.15

[Marias132]

Looks more like an overpair rather than a set. Or he horribly played his AK. You probably have the best hand. Any reads on this guy from previous hands ?

[sejje]

I like checking behind there, but I wimp out sometimes.

I definitely wouldn't push. I don't see what calls after checking twice unless he was setting you up.

Strange hand. Interested in the results.

[bdawg56kg]

** Game ID 600323247 starting - 2005-12-04 18:02:39
** Bad Beat Table 2 [Hold 'em] (0.50|1.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- johnny291281 sitting in seat 1 with $129.15 [Dealer]
- Dannesan sitting in seat 2 with $97.00
- MCA69 sitting in seat 3 with $17.15
- mr_kjeks sitting in seat 4 with $201.50
- UAW420rook sitting in seat 5 with $7.85
- MrBlonde70 sitting in seat 6 with $94.50
- leroybrown28 sitting in seat 7 with $49.38
- vitanga sitting in seat 8 with $31.42
- Hassy sitting in seat 9 with $99.00 [Sitting out]
- redsoxgal04 sitting in seat 10 with $12.48

Dannesan posted the small blind - $0.50
MCA69 posted the big blind - $1.00

** Dealing card to johnny291281: Queen of Hearts, Queen of Clubs

mr_kjeks called - $1.00
UAW420rook folded
MrBlonde70 folded
leroybrown28 folded
vitanga called - $1.00
redsoxgal04 folded
johnny291281 raised - $5.00
Dannesan folded
MCA69 folded
mr_kjeks called - $5.00
vitanga called - $5.00

** Dealing the flop: 2 of Clubs, 5 of Spades, 3 of Hearts

mr_kjeks bet - $20.00 strange.. Overpair or set..
vitanga called - $20.00 short stack, I don't care
johnny291281 raised - $60.00 can't fold this, need info
mr_kjeks called - $60.00 I'm beat, set
vitanga went all-in - $6.42

** Dealing the turn: 10 of Clubs

mr_kjeks checked
johnny291281 checked No check-raise of me

** Dealing the river: Jack of Clubs

mr_kjeks checked ?? Do I have the best hand?
johnny291281 went all-in - $64.15
mr_kjeks called - $64.15

[/b]

I would push the turn here. Since you are willing to get it all in on the river, why not get it all in on the turn? If you don't catch a river queen, your hand only gets "worse." Also, by raising so much on the flop you half-commit yourself here. (Personally I don't think a minraise on the flop would be a bad idea) I don't see how you get away from this hand with the pot so big and the board rather non-threatening. After the flop you have $65 and the pot is about $160. You would need a very good read to lay this down here. Personally I don't think mr_kjeks has a set, because this is a very very odd line. If he did have 22, 33, or 55, why wait so long to get the money in? Any Ace, 4, 6 or possibly a club or 5 will potentially kill his action. I think a set gets the money in on the flop or on the turn at the latest.

[johnny_fish]

Without being too results-oriented, I think my river push is horrible. Which worse hand would call? Flop play is fine, although raising to 50 would give me the same info (I don't like minraising to 40).

Good analysis?

He showed KK btw.

[EricE]

oh I see it now. He is in call down mode after he calls the flop raise. He wants to see a showdown but he doesn't feel strong enough to raise himself. Odd line but there it is.

I would have half potted the river.

[Miffed22001]

I think you call the flop and shove the turn.
no reraise with KK?
congratulate opp on a good trapping play imo.
Classically how i would play KK here looking at ypur preflop raise