Yay my house is haunted

[ProZachNation]

My house is haunted I am pretty sure so yay for me

"Proof"

*One time when I was home alone I was counting out my change since I was broke and I had my can of change sitting on the floor I got up and went to the bathroom as I was walking past my door to the kitchen I heard change rattling looked into my room and it stopped. And I dont mean like to coins falling it was like someone was shaking the can from side to side at a decent rate

*This one is more easy to dismiss twice when I was maybe 12 I woke up in the middle of the night and it felt as if someone was sitting on my bed(the bed felt like it was sloping down on the side like when somone sits on the edge) and both times a little bit after I woke up it felt like the person sat up, and when I peaked after they sat up no one was in my room and my door was closed

*A lot of times at nite when I am in the family room I hear pots and dishes rattle or it sounds like somoone is getting something from the fridge when no one else is up

*All of the dogs I have had will sometimes jump up and walk up to a wall and then come back to me as if they are scarred and then bark or lay down facing that wall.

*Three times tonite I have thought my sister has come home or my dog was getting into something in the family room while I have been in my room sitting at my computer facing the wall connected to the family room. It sounds like someone is bumping into the tables and messing with stuff in the room. I have got up 3 times to find my dog sleeping in the living room.


So do you think I am just paranoid? My house is only like 50 years old and I am 90% sure no one has died in it, a pretty crazy guy did tho.

[stoltzy]

yay someones know my pain lol
i once had a glass coin jar and a spoon beside me and a friend. the spoon somehow hit the coin jar and shattered it and we ran like hell. since then we think my house is haunted too. of course noone but me and my friend believe it. have fun trying to get someone to believe you
im here for you bud

BOOOOOOOOOO

[hydroseeds]

Who you gonna call?

[Muxy]

Stop doing crack.

The Twelve Steps

These are the twelve steps.

1. We admitted we were powerless over [problem] — that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
7. Humbly asked him to remove our shortcomings.
8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God, as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of his will for us and the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to others with the same problem, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

[Lukie]

I think the boxers are my mom telling me to get laid not sure tho

It's all coming into focus now.

Seriously though.. put down the pipe. Your house isn't haunted. If my limited knowledge of psychology is accurate, this will strengthen your ideas that your house is haunted. I'm such an asshole. Sorry.

[boost]

I think things like this can and probably do exist. By 'things', I mean stuff that cant be explained by our current scientific knowledge and understanding. You have to remember that not too long ago the western world burned people at the stake for 'claiming' that the world was round. So its not really that much of a jump to assume that some amount of reported paranormal activity is infact explainable through science, we just havent figured out how to do the explaining just yet.

Because its apparent that there is no way that we can influence these things in a way that we can be sure is positive, or negative. It is probably best to just ignore them, or acknowledge them, but dont let it effect you, or waste any of your time.

[drdeutsch]

My girlfriend comes from Taiwan, which has a huge ghost culture. Ghost festivals, ghost day, etc. Maybe it comes with buddhism, I'm not sure. Anyway, she makes me watch those shows, Most Haunted, Haunted America, etc, and I absolutely hate them. Could just be me, but the entire rhetoric of the show is just the spectacle.

First, they do a prelim scan, then they turn off all the lights, break out the night vision, someone gets possessed and starts yelling obscenities, and at the end of the night, all is well in the world. That's the British show, the American show is a bit more scientific, since they set up cameras and doing sound recordings and whatnot.

Getting to the point, after watching these shows for quite some time, and seeing that at the end of each one, they have no hard physical evidence whatsoever, besides a few people allegedly seeing something or feeling something, I am left to believe that ghosts do not, in fact, exist.

It's not that I have ultimate faith in science, for I still believe in God, but given my limited experience in this area, I would definitely recommend you need to get a psychological grasp of your situation. That is, acknowledge to yourself that your house isn't haunted, stop living in fear or denial, or curious wonderment at what could be going on.

Now, that said, if you choose to believe that your house is haunted, I've heard that verbal confrontations with spirits can help. Saying things like "This isn't your house anymore," "This is our house," "You need to go towards the light," etc etc have helped some people in the past.

Good luck.

[Rondavu]

I still believe in God, but given my limited experience in this area, I would definitely recommend you need to get a psychological grasp of your situation. That is, acknowledge to yourself that your house isn't haunted, stop living in fear or denial, or curious wonderment at what could be going on.

Hogwash. You believe in an invisible man in the sky, but you're telling him not to believe in something that is announcing it's presence emperically. Even worse, you're telling him he needs some kind of psychological adjustment. Speaking from personal experience, I can tell you I believe every word he's saying. I've lived in a haunted house myself. The guy who owned it before us died while choking on a bear claw. We would find empty packages of various snacks around the house for years. Spooky stuff. Crumbcake package, no crumbcakes. Funny bone package. No funny bones. I almost cried. I felt like a prisoner in my own home, with no snacks to eat. Also, my aunt kept getting fatter. There was obviously something going on. Try explaining that god lover.

[r8ed]

I would think if you believe in an afterlife (which you would if you believe in God), you would not discount Ghosts. I believe in God. I haven't seen any ghosts but their existence seems very possible. I DON'T want to believe they exist because if I ever ran into one, I would curl up in the corner and suck my thumb.

Rondavu's point is valid. Furthermore, you use science to back up your claim there are no ghosts. But if they had a scientific show to prove God exists, they would come to the same conclusion. You can't have your bear claw and eat it too (especially with Rondavu's fat Aunt around).

[journey075]

I think the boxers are my mom telling me to get laid not sure tho

Seriously though.. put down the pipe.

bah, go to hell. PICK UP THE PIPE, YOU CANT LEAVE WESLEY PIPES TO DIE.

[ProZachNation]

Im not saying I believe in ghosts or god or naything like that.

By haunted I mean something wierd is going on.


I mean you can sit there and tell me Im imaginiing it or its easy to explain but when it sounds like somone is playing with the blinds and moving stuff around on the table in the other room its hard for me to dismiss it.

I am a very skeptical person myself, one time I thought I was for sure haunted everynite at 2am I would hear a low rumbling coming from the same room I hear stuff in now, and I would go in that room and look around and see nothing wierd. This went on for about a week. Finally I got up and searched the entire room and discovered that it was out speaker system playing on a timer a CD for learning how to play the bass lol.

So its not like Im like omg a noise its a ghost, no I am hearing wierd noises about every other night and would like to know what they are but can not explain them

And I am not scarred either, when I was home alone and the can shook I didnt get scarred and run I got really calm and walked into a different room turned on the lights in there and sat there and thought about what happened which is wierd for me to do because I used to get scarred easily when watcing movies and stuff.

[drdeutsch]

You don't see any difference between God and ghosts? Well, that's your problem right there. I believe in a God because science has, thus far, at least as I'm concerned, failed to explain the origins of the Universe. The Big Bang is right on, for sure, and the earth is far older than the Bible says it is, but I still don't understand how you get something from nothing. Therefore, I believe in a higher being to get the big bang started. In this case, then, it is the lack of solid, scientific evidence that leads me to beleive in a God. Obviously, I don't think science can explain everything, nor does religion. But I see no reason why the two can't work together.

Now, as far as ghosts are concerned, I admitted I have quite limited experience in this field, and in accordance with that limited experience, I have never heard of, seen, or read about any solid physical, scientific evidence to back up the claims of ghosts. Still waiting on solid evidence for bigfoot, the loch ness monster, and ufo's, too. None of which, by the way, falls in the purview of religion. Some religions, perhaps; not mine.

Could ghosts and bigfoot exist? Absolutely. I never said they couldn't exist, only that, as far as I'm concerned, they don't. I could be completely wrong, but until someone turns up some solid evidence to prove me wrong, I stand by my assertions.

And you make it sound as if I told him he was crazy insane or needed to go see a shrink. Not the case at all. Someone before me posted almost the exact same thing.

Lukie wrote:
"Your house isn't haunted. If my limited knowledge of psychology is accurate, this will strengthen your ideas that your house is haunted."

and:

bootsnslide wrote:
"It is probably best to just ignore them, or acknowledge them, but dont let it effect you, or waste any of your time."

Now how is that different from what I told him? I told him to get a grasp on the situation and acknowledge that his house isn't haunted.

Stop playing the blame game. If you want to analyze my religious and scientific views, start another thread. Stop threadcrapping with the ad hominem attacks when it has no bearing on his situation.

drdeutsch

[Rondavu]

That's bizarre man. So the ghost walks into your room and goes "You know what, fuck it... I think I'll shake this spare change"

[lolzzz_321]

*Three times tonite I have thought my sister has come...

How old is ur sister?

[Rondavu]

bootsnslide wrote:
"It is probably best to just ignore them, or acknowledge them, but dont let it effect you, or waste any of your time."

Now how is that different from what I told him? I told him to get a grasp on the situation and acknowledge that his house isn't haunted.
drdeutsch

Dude, the problem is your telling him to acknowledge his house isn't haunted, when it probably is. Why tell someone to lie to themselves? Bootsnslide never told him to convince himself they don't exist. He just said to ignore what may in fact exist.

I believe in a God because science has, thus far, at least as I'm concerned, failed to explain the origins of the Universe.

Argumentum ad ignorantiam (argument to ignorance). This is the fallacy of assuming something is true simply because it hasn't been proven false. I didn't make that up. It's logic 101. Your belief in god is based on flawed logic. That's a thin line to walk on your belief of a god, but not believe in ghosts. Hey man, don't think I'm attacking you. It's just a discussion. Nothing personal. You can believe whatever you want as far as I'm concerned. I'm just defending the poster.

[Monty9]

What ever you do dont play poker with a ghost.

They are really good at reading your hand and bluffing.

Youll be pwned........ for sure........

[Warpe]

http://atheistempire.com/reference/brain/main.html

[DaNutsInYoEye]

Getting to the point, after watching these shows for quite some time, and seeing that at the end of each one, they have no hard physical evidence whatsoever, besides a few people allegedly seeing something or feeling something, I am left to believe that ghosts do not, in fact, exist.

"Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!" - Homer Simpson

[boost]

You don't see any difference between God and ghosts? Well, that's your problem right there. I believe in a God because science has, thus far, at least as I'm concerned, failed to explain the origins of the Universe. The Big Bang is right on, for sure, and the earth is far older than the Bible says it is, but I still don't understand how you get something from nothing. Therefore, I believe in a higher being to get the big bang started. In this case, then, it is the lack of solid, scientific evidence that leads me to beleive in a God. Obviously, I don't think science can explain everything, nor does religion. But I see no reason why the two can't work together.

Now, as far as ghosts are concerned, I admitted I have quite limited experience in this field, and in accordance with that limited experience, I have never heard of, seen, or read about any solid physical, scientific evidence to back up the claims of ghosts. Still waiting on solid evidence for bigfoot, the loch ness monster, and ufo's, too. None of which, by the way, falls in the purview of religion. Some religions, perhaps; not mine.

Could ghosts and bigfoot exist? Absolutely. I never said they couldn't exist, only that, as far as I'm concerned, they don't. I could be completely wrong, but until someone turns up some solid evidence to prove me wrong, I stand by my assertions.

And you make it sound as if I told him he was crazy insane or needed to go see a shrink. Not the case at all. Someone before me posted almost the exact same thing.

Lukie wrote:
"Your house isn't haunted. If my limited knowledge of psychology is accurate, this will strengthen your ideas that your house is haunted."

and:

bootsnslide wrote:
"It is probably best to just ignore them, or acknowledge them, but dont let it effect you, or waste any of your time."

Now how is that different from what I told him? I told him to get a grasp on the situation and acknowledge that his house isn't haunted.

Stop playing the blame game. If you want to analyze my religious and scientific views, start another thread. Stop threadcrapping with the ad hominem attacks when it has no bearing on his situation.

drdeutsch

your problem is that you are trying to prove a negative, if you know anything about science, very few people set out to do this. Its VERY hard in most cases to truly prove a negative. Just because the arguement to the positive is not a strong one does not prove it to be negative. Many "paranormal" things of our past are now understood scientifically. Such as ball lightning, these things are glowing spheres that fly around for short periods of time and can make 90° turns and other weird stuff. Until recently though these things where associated with ghost or ufo's and where considered to just be things made up by crazies. There is no law of physics or anything mathematical that disproves the existence of ghost, ufo's or most other paranormal things. This doesnt mean that you should blindly believe in these things, but I dont think theres anything wrong at all with accepting that they could infact exist.

[drdeutsch]

This doesnt mean that you should blindly believe in these things, but I dont think theres anything wrong at all with accepting that they could infact exist.

And I said as much in my post. Ghosts, bigfoot, UFOs and other paranormal oddities may, in fact, exist. Indeed, I acknowledge that they can exist. However, until conclusive evidence is brought forth, I won't believe that they do exist. I trust you understand my argument is based on the semantic difference between "can exist" and "do exist."

[boost]

gotcha, guess I misunderstood/read what you said. But I think that you did come at pro in an agressive "you are wrong" sort of way. This guy is saying he has expeirenced something that is not easily explainable as anything but something paranormal. Maybe you didnt mean it like this, but it sure felt like you where telling him that its not true, or at all possible.

I would just accept what you said in your last post, however you made a point to say there IS a difference between god and ghost. Last time I checked, no body has scientifically proved the existence of a god or gods. If you want to argue that there has to be a greater power that initiated the big bang, thats a commonly shared view. However it is just as likely that humans just cant easily comprehend the way our universe really works due to the way our society treats time. Whos to say that the universe is not constantly on a loop of expanding and collapsing until it gets so compact that the energy created by the friction causes a 'big bang'. In this situation we are always going to say "but what started it all?". But thats just a question that spawns from our preconditioned concept of time. So I hate to tell you, but with your reasoning there is just as much of a possibility, maybe even less of one that god exists compared to ghost existing.

kthxgg.