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  1. #1

    Default Weird line from a TAGG

    Villan is a multitable TAGG type. winning player.
    I've never seen a limp/little raise like this from him before though.
    I have one note on him and it says "minraised AQ EP" so he could possibly have some weird lines.

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    Hand #164770776 at table: Table TH 1278
    Started: Fri Dec 30 20:46:25 2005

    getl0st is at seat 1 with 166.26
    derman is at seat 2 with 17.00
    lckstck is at seat 3 with 88.75
    Barucc19 is at seat 4 with 46.85
    kudlaty is at seat 5 with 99.00
    zoltan0052 is at seat 6 with 98.71
    All-in4Fun is at seat 7 with 196.10
    GusHansen1 is at seat 8 with 166.63
    Best1 is at seat 9 with 74.65
    Benblanco is at seat 10 with 99.70

    Barucc19 posts the large blind 1.00
    lckstck posts the small blind 0.50

    All-in4Fun: Ac, Kh

    Pre-flop:

    kudlaty: Call 1.00
    zoltan0052: Fold
    All-in4Fun: Raise 3.00
    GusHansen1: Fold
    Best1: Fold
    Benblanco: Fold
    getl0st: Fold
    derman: Fold
    lckstck: Fold
    Barucc19: Fold
    kudlaty: Raise 5.00
    All-in4Fun: Call 5.00

    Flop (Board: 7d, Kc, 10c): Pot $11

    kudlaty: Bet 3.00
    All-in4Fun: Raise 9.00
    kudlaty: Raise 15.00
    All-in4Fun: Call 15.00

    Turn (Board: 7d, Kc, 10c, 10s): Pot $41

    kudlaty: Bet 10.00
    All-in4Fun: Call 10.00

    River (Board: 7d, Kc, 10c, 10s, 9c): Pot $61

    kudlaty: Bet 25.00
    All-in4Fun: Fold

    I should have raised the turn right? I need some ideas.
  2. #2
    Seems like a strong possibility of aces or kings. Classic sandbag/re-raise pre-flop, plays the rest of the hand confidently.
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    Looks like a set of 7's or an aggressive line on a flush draw.
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    I probably fold to the flop 3-bet. I mean what hands do you beat here? KQ? KJ? Highly unlikely. Sure he could have AK as well but I think most of the time you are way behind here. Another option might be to just call the flop bet and re-evaluate on the turn. After I get limp-reraised and hit TPTK (with a king), I'm not exactly eager to inflate the pot.
  5. #5
    I think it was the tiny preflop raise that got me confused, I was reluctant to say AA/KK because its so weak. Looking back now I think the 3 bb flop bet was an action stimulant for his KK perhaps. I deffinitly should have gotten out sooner then I did though, I kept thinking cheap showdown but he wasn't having any of it. I was almost deffinitly beat though. Well, live and learn.
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    AA possibly KK.
    You are so far behind on that flop its unreal.
    Your previous notes saved you i think. Unorthodox but nice if his read on you is good
  7. #7
    does anyone ever UTG limp re-raise anthing other than aa/kk?

    He leads the flop with a weak 'feeler bet' of 1/3 pot - possibly tempting you to sense weekness and re-raise, giving him a chance to beef up the pot more with a 3-bet.

    good laydown imo
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  8. #8
    Looks like AA to me, maybe another AK, maybe even KK.

    Raise more pre-flop, $4 or $5.
    Call the flop, re-evaluate on the turn. I might pop him there, I might call it down. I think either approach gets you to showdown cheaper and gets better information than your flop line. Particularly if we're going to continue after the 3-bet.
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    I think either approach gets you to showdown cheaper and gets better information than your flop line. Particularly if we're going to continue after the 3-bet.
    Good point. What was the point in my raise if I'm going to call his 3-bet any way. All it does is tell me I'm beat yet build the pot for him.
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    anybody think he flopped a set of tens that became quads on the turn?
    just another line
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    anybody think he flopped a set of tens that became quads on the turn?
    just another line
    I don't think you often see people limp reraise OOP with TT. It's possible though I suppose.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    AA. fold to 3-bet on flop. It's a weird line he uses but it makes sense. He doesn't see the action he wants preflop and finds himself isolated against a weak raiser. A strong reraise here gives away his hand so he throws a change-up with his weird limp-minraise hoping you flop something nice and don't put him on rockets.
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