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  1. #1
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    Default Two Pair Hand

    Where did I go wrong here?

    Edit: the table had been quite passive, with several PFR being folded to, hence with the KKQQ on the flop I was aiming at a check-raise, rather than an opening raise that might induce a total fold. Bad idea?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

    MP1 ($1.70)
    MP2 ($1.40)
    CO ($4.53)
    Button ($1.76)
    Hero ($4.82)
    BB ($1.84)
    UTG ($5.84)
    UTG+1 ($3.06)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, K.
    UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.02, 2 folds, Button calls $0.02, Hero completes, BB checks.

    Flop: ($0.10) 7, K, Q (5 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.

    Turn: ($0.10) T (5 players)
    Hero bets $0.1, BB raises to $0.2, UTG folds, MP1 folds, Button calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.5, BB folds, Button calls $0.30.

    River: ($1.30) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets $1, Button calls $1.

    Final Pot: $3.30

    Results in white below:
    Button has 9d Jd (straight, king high).
    Hero has Qd Kc (two pair, kings and queens).
    Outcome: Button wins $3.30.
  2. #2
    BET THE FLOP
    BET THE FLOP
    AND THEN BET THE FLOP SOME MORE
    STOP SLOWPLAYING HANDS IN MULTIWAY POSTS
    FASTPLAYING IS THE NEW SLOWPLAYING
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    SO you're saying ALWAYS raise the flop and don't read the table?
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  4. #4
    Read the table by seeing how they react to your bet, how does checking help you?

    Two pair is not a license to print money, especially if there are two broadway cards on the flop. There are 5 people in the hand, do you realize how many draws can be out there? Dont give them a free card, make them pay to see the next card. Lets see, possible hands your opponents might have: AJ, AT, JT, T9. So if you give a free card, any A, J, T or 9 could potentially give someone a straight. Thats 16 cards you dont want to see on the turn, quite a lot. Not even mentioning the possibility of someone hitting a set on the turn (trust me it happens).

    Start fastplaying your hands, you will thank me.
  5. #5
    Arkana said:
    Fastplaying is the new slowplaying.
    2 pair is not a license to print money.

    2 gems in one thread.

    A conversation from earlier today, after a calling station called me down to the river where the 3 to a straight hits, I'm holding two pair, and I get put AI:

    I: Well, looks like 2 pair no good this trip
    Player to my left, not in the hand: Yeah right, you'd call if you really had 2 pair
    I: Lol, I hope you call me with 2 pair when I do that to you

    I know, taunting fish = -EV, but damn...
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    OK fair eough good advice thanks. Given the way it was playing I expected them to fold to a bet ... but I guess winning the pot there is better than sucking out later.
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  7. #7
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    You said the table is passive, so you decided to check-raise.

    Do you see why this makes no sense?
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  8. #8
    yea seems like latlely whenever i try to slow play hands I get burnt alot so I am slow playing a hell of alot less than I used to. Man that check made no sense to me at all. Why would you give them free cards like that
    It's easy to shoot fish in a barrell............. Just throw in a stick of dynamite!!

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