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    Default Set on flop, re-raised big on river

    $10 NL

    Villain is UTG, kinda short-stacked, and plays lots of crappy hands.

    saw flop

    MP3 ($42.70)
    Hero ($12.25)
    Button ($3.75)
    SB ($15.25)
    BB ($4.00)
    UTG ($4.50)
    UTG+1 ($10.00)
    MP1 ($12.65)
    MP2 ($9.80)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 8, 8. SB posts a blind of $0.05.
    UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

    Flop: ($0.50) 8, 2, 3 (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.25, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25.

    Turn: ($1.25) T (3 players)
    UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks. (Board looks safe - Should I just bet anyways here?)

    River: ($1.25) 5 (3 players)
    UTG bets $0.25, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, UTG raises to $4.15, Hero ?. Do I pay this off every time?
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    Bet the turn, get it in on the river.
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    at 10NL, you see 2 pair more often than the hands that beat you (A4,46,TT)
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    Bet your fucking hand. They call too fucking much and don't fucking bet/raise enough. In either case, if you don't play a big pot here, you fucked up.

    Pot the flop, bet lots of money on the turn, push river; giggle like a Japanese school-girl if raised and put the rest of the money in.
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    yeah...anytime you go to showdown with a flopped set, it should almost always be for stacks. You should always try to make you bets big enough so that he has no choice but to call when you push the river. If you dont do this then you have failed as a poker player.
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    I have no idea why you checked the turn, with no flush draw I wouldn't pot the turn but I'd 1/2 pot it and hope that I get CRed. By checking the turn not only did you miss a chance to build the pot you missed a chace to gain information. If they CR the turn they've got a smaller set, maybe T2 or T3 soooooooted cuz it's $10 NL, if they just call the turn they're on a straight draw or they're calling with 1 pair. If they check call the turn you can acually lay down your set on the river to an all-in bet cuz you've eliminated 22, 33, T2 and T3, you'de be shown A4 and 64 almost every time in that case. Since you checked the turn he can be raising the river with 22, 33 even 55, you're failure to gain information on earlier rounds makes it impossible to make a laydown this big on the river. You simply don't have eneugh information to fold. Remember you have to be right more than half the time to have the pot odds to fold here.

    I played a hand at $25 NL similar to this one where I folded a set of 8s on the river to a huge raise but it bet it all the way, I'll try to find it and post it and let players tear up my play lol. I think I bet too small on the flop that hand if I remember it right.
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