HU Play Was this dumb ?

[fasin8ing]

Would you have pushed.. or bet in my situation ?
A. Dude has loved flush draws this whole game...
B. Guy raises every HU hand with Aces.
C. I had a 4 to 1 chip lead the hand before this one and got drawn out.
D. This guy really aint that smart.
E. If he had an ace hes calling my all in.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (2 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button (t11132)
Hero (t8868)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, 2.
Button raises to t600, Hero calls t400.

Flop: (t1400) Q, K, 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t400, Hero calls t400.

Turn: (t2200) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (t2200) A (2 players)Hero is all in 7668
Button calls t7668.

Final Pot: t9868

[zarry]

I bet the turn push the river

[ProZachNation]

I dont know if pushing the river was a good idea.

I have seen a guy do this dozens of times, miss the flop but gain the draw and bet. Then check the turn since their draw missed.

From your position I am definetly betting stong on the flop. He seemed weak on the flop pound him on the turn with a nice size bet to get an idea where he is at.

The river completes two pretty sensible draws. That I could seem him playing this way.



I woulda check/called the flop, 3/4thed the pot on the turn and if he called, then I might be looking to push the river. That would make me suspect KQ AK so I would feel safe to push the river.

[fasin8ing]

I dont know if pushing the river was a good idea.

I have seen a guy do this dozens of times, miss the flop but gain the draw and bet. Then check the turn since their draw missed.

From your position I am definetly betting stong on the flop. He seemed weak on the flop pound him on the turn with a nice size bet to get an idea where he is at.

The river completes two pretty sensible draws. That I could seem him playing this way.



I woulda check/called the flop, 3/4thed the pot on the turn and if he called, then I might be looking to push the river. That would make me suspect KQ AK so I would feel safe to push the river.

Iam not scared to bet the flop . He pushes over the top if he hit anything on that flop. He pushes if hes on a flush draw... Thats his style. I try not to be so passive with certain players... Its hard to get any money in there without them pushing and leaving you with a decision. How do you know where you are when you bet that flop and get raised a crazy amount or pushed into? Iam not willing to gamble with a pair of twos. Even though this worked out.. Maybe I shouldnt even have been the hand.

The big picture is he min raised.... Iam not letting him min raise me and offer me 2:1 odds and not see a flop. 8 2 is not the greatest.. But i dont think it matters.. So Iam in the right to call correct? He raised 800 BTW, I dont know why the converter always says 600. Ok, so with HU play ... Two clubs or a straight draw on the board. Its extremely hard to put him on something. He min bet the flop. Hes bet almost every flop we have played. He does bet every flop we have played.

I check the turn to see what the river brings. If he holds J Q of clubs... I take second place. However; if he is not on a draw.... And holds an Ace ... He missed a flush draw... He may have made his straight, But my all in should have told him I made my FD. Its really not trip twos Iam representing.... However; thats gotta be a strong enough hand to push into him if he does have 2 pair, a Q a K or an A. Holding an ace this entire time makes sense.. He min raised... C bet the flop to know where he stands. I bet if I would have raised that flop .. He would have either folded or pushed over. Then I would be faced with a decision with a pair of deuces. By no means am I going to sit here and justify this play if it was horrible. I just dont see any logic in raising the flop. And then betting the turn . Him catching a piece of the flop will cause him to push over me .. Especially if hes got a King. If this is true about the players at the fives... " Players at the five dont see your cards as being important, they only see their cards" then I dont see how I went wrong playing this hand out cheaper than raising the flop and betting the turn.

My chip stack cannnot with stand much agressive play. And if Iam going to play agressive with this guy its not going to be with 8 2 os. Do I make any valid points? I have been playing exceptionally better HU since I have calmed down, and caught a piece of the board, and then made a decision on the river what to do. Its putting this opponent on two cards and his style of play that Iam not getting.

Zach, play this hand out and let me know your thought process... Since you now know a little more about my opponent.

[drmcboy]

dude you must start putting paragraphs in.
I'm not even going to try and read that.

Fold pre flop.

If you think he's calling river push with an A, it's correct. If he made the flush instead, gg. Against standard opp who might be able to fold a weak A here, makes more sense to value bet. Plus you may get paid off by something like KT, which certainly folds to the push.

[fasin8ing]

dude you must start putting paragraphs in.
I'm not even going to try and read that.

Fold pre flop.

If you think he's calling river push with an A, it's correct. If he made the flush instead, gg. Against standard opp who might be able to fold a weak A here, makes more sense to value bet. Plus you may get paid off by something like KT, which certainly folds to the push.

FMP .. Sorry . I didnt realize how long I rambled. Value betting makes sense and folding to a push makes sense on my end.

[biondino]

I'm hammering the turn here, possibly with an all-in. The river card is about as bad as it could be - a decent sized value bet may be a better move if there's any chance of you folding to a bigger raise.

[Renton]

this is a clear fold preflop. You are calling a raise, OOP, and without the chip advantage, with a hand that is in the bottom 10 Percent. If this were a hand with drawing odds like 32 or even 82s, then maybe, but even then its questionable.

You are supposed to play most hands when its HU, but this is one of the hands you are supposed to fold.

[fjuanl]

The big picture is he min raised.... Iam not letting him min raise me and offer me 2:1 odds and not see a flop. 8 2 is not the greatest.. But i dont think it matters.. So Iam in the right to call correct?

you are right that you should be calling with a lot of hands when someone minraises you HE, but you have 82o. Doesnt matter what odds he's giving you, dump it.

[ProZachNation]

Still dont like the river push, a river pot size or even over bet is ok. I just dont think you can push here with no info. Collect some info on the turn.