5-10NL 6M vs superdonk

[ilikeaces86]

Relavent Stacks:
Hero: $1200
Superdonk: $2500

Dealt to Hero AsKh

Hero raises in CO to 40 BB(superdonk) calls.

Flop Ks8h2d bb checks hero bets 80 superdonk calls.

Turn 3h superdonk leads for 120 Hero raises to 750 superdonk calls.

River 8d Superdonk says "oops" in chat and puts my last $300 and change in the middle. Hero calls.

I would have to be on crack to fold the river getting like 8:1 right?

[arkana]

Yes, although i would expect to lose to his trip 8s.

Whats with the big turn raise?

[Pingviini]

Folding the river would be a crime, I am not just too crazy about that big, committing raise on turn. 360 in the pot 120 to call, I like raising here but I am more likely to make it ~300 to go, then you will have a PSB left for river. I am more willing to keep the pot in control here, though.

had he been donk betting before? Usually its a sign of weakness (an 8)

[gabe]

nh

[Renton]

I would have to be on crack to fold the river getting like 8:1 right?

Statistically, are you winning here even 1 in 8 times? What, conceivably, could you possibly be up against that you beat? Given that this guy's a superdonk, I guess he could have KT+, or QQ.

[PO$$E$$ED]

I would have to be on crack to fold the river getting like 8:1 right?

Yes. You played the hand fine as far as I can tell, turn raise is actually pretty standard against a superdonk. What did he have?

[Irisheyes]

The whole point of the big turn raise is to get committed against a KQ donk right?

I am on crack and I still call the river.

[ilikeaces86]

I would have to be on crack to fold the river getting like 8:1 right?

Yes. You played the hand fine as far as I can tell, turn raise is actually pretty standard against a superdonk. What did he have?

85 os

[Renton]

85 os

Wow. Please tell me you stacked this guy back a few times in revenge afterward.

If that happened to me I would probably be forced to track this character down and take a giant crap on his chest. Only then would we be square.

[ilikeaces86]

85 os

Wow. Please tell me you stacked this guy back a few times in revenge afterward.

If that happened to me I would probably be forced to track this character down and take a giant crap on his chest. Only then would we be square.

Nah I had to go to bed. But after the hand he was talking a ton of trash in the chat. "I told you that you would get whats coming to you. You fucking suck..." It was like 4AM tho.

[Lukie]

aces,

I assume this is a NL1000 game. Obviously as you move up the stakes, donkeys like this slowly but surely begin to disappear. Even still, is it at least somewhat common to run into players like this, even at the low-end of high stakes games? The consensus at 2p2 is yes, but I guess I still have the impression that games like 5/10NL are very tough. What do you think?

[andy-akb]

aces,

I assume this is a NL1000 game. Obviously as you move up the stakes, donkeys like this slowly but surely begin to disappear. Even still, is it at least somewhat common to run into players like this, even at the low-end of high stakes games? The consensus at 2p2 is yes, but I guess I still have the impression that games like 5/10NL are very tough. What do you think?

Im curiouis about this too, sometimes I dont really know what to think of th 2+2ers. I was reading a thread the other day where a regular from the nosebleed NL stakes was saying that 10/20 at party was filled with donks and he is confident he could beat the game for over 10bb/100 with a 100%VPIP, and was being atleast somewhat serious about it. I am nowhere near these stakes but I find it hard to imagine that anybody but regulars would be playing these games. How many fish really are at these levels?

[gabe]

How many fish really are at these levels?

this isn't the nosebleed limits, but $600 is pretty high...


***** Hand History for Game 3821688330 *****
$600 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, March 25, 22:28:15 ET 2006
Table March GiveAway #1209450 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 5: galactical ( $778.10 )
Seat 3: scrubbyjack ( $994.50 )
Seat 2: REAL_CLOSE ( $591 )
Seat 6: madnesspoker ( $1271.08 )
Seat 1: sbmccoy ( $778.75 )
Seat 4: Basharott ( $800.50 )
scrubbyjack posts small blind [$3].
Basharott posts big blind [$6].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Ah 8h ]
galactical raises [$20].
sbmccoy raises [$34].
REAL_CLOSE folds.
scrubbyjack folds.
Basharott folds.
galactical raises [$73].
sbmccoy raises [$118].
galactical is all-In.
sbmccoy calls [$626.10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, 9c, 5s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 2d ]
>You have options at Cape Moule (No DP) Table!.
sbmccoy shows [ 9d, 4h ] a straight, two to six.
galactical doesn't show [ Ah, 8h ] high card ace.
sbmccoy wins $1563.20 from the main pot with a straight, two to six



***** Hand History for Game 3758931162 *****
$400 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, March 16, 22:29:02 ET 2006
Table Table 95532 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Mouthbreath ( $324.59 )
Seat 2: PHENOM_1971 ( $200 )
Seat 5: WhaataBLUFF ( $228.62 )
Seat 3: galactical ( $1058.60 )
Seat 4: fangusZ4 ( $400 )
Seat 6: desktopius ( $236.86 )
Mouthbreath posts small blind [$2].
PHENOM_1971 posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to galactical [ Td Ac ]
>You have options at Table 96770 (No DP) Table!.
fangusZ4: keep it up donkey
galactical raises [$15].
fangusZ4 raises [$100].
WhaataBLUFF folds.
galactical: not quite broke
Mouthbreath folds.
PHENOM_1971 folds.
galactical is all-In.
fangusZ4 is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, Kd, 9d ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
galactical: oops
fangusZ4 shows [ Jd, 7c ] a pair of jacks.
galactical shows [ Td, Ac ] high card ace.

[Aces]

Gabe - You didn't give specific reads but why would you get AI PF with A8s and AT